All of the above. The deep state wants the entire world on digital IDs so that it can dictate terms and you have no choices other than what they give you. I believe this is part of the depopulation agenda.
China, for several years by now, has been pioneering the extent to which autocracy still works without the people being unable to take it anymore. (Refusing has never been an option.)
I have a half-baked article on the subject somewhere, but never finished it. It also included bank accounts suddenly becoming unavailable, ridiculously-low wages, and empty high-rises, because workers can't afford the rent. Perhaps I should publish it, after all.
China has a huge number of paid agents spreading "good news" about the country.
Yes. You don't need a black car that comes at dawn and takes you away because you don't like the way the communist party works, it's enough to score members of the population... Of course, we don't know what they do with the "really bad" ones... For example, during the "covid" period, we saw how collaborators slander those who proclaim the truth...
... and China didn't need internment camps to lock people up in their own apartments to the brink of starvation. Of course, camps also exist, but they exist in the US, too, except the ones here are privately-run. The usual scam of democracy by privatizing profits and socializing losses.
Much of what you say isn’t true, Ray. I know, because I’ve lived here for 20 years. Did you know that the American government spends over US$1 billion a year spreading anti-China propaganda about the country of China. Anything China does that Americans don’t like was invented by the Americans long ago, including the spread of fear, fake news, wars, propaganda and hatred towards other countries.
My impression is that the US taxpayer's money is always lavishly spent, serving the controlled demolition of the USD, and it's important to keep up appearances.
I am aware of the paid agents setting up China as an enemy, but the US govt and businesses demonstrate the opposite.
My next post (probably on Wednesday) will be about China, so we'll have more time to discuss such details.
I am also worried that China is too large, and generalization might not go much further than the obvious (which applies to the US, too).
Your questions about the purpose of "social credit score propaganda" at the end are good ones. I guess the motivations could be various and multifaceted, with chaos and conflict as first-level objectives, and then greater top-down control, as deeper objectives. For me, it does not matter what the objectives are. I recoil at this bio-digital great reset that is obviously going forward with greater and greater speed, for I feel that it portends, on some level, complete loss of human freedom. It is an anti-Christian, anti-human system, one that to me always harkens back to original sin, the idea that human beings can become God if they just do X, Y, Z, and give their souls over to creation and not creator. I personally am feeling incredibly weary and ground-down by this imminent beast system, even if it is only in its infant stages. I don't like it, even if it is not as bad as videos like the one above imply. I know that many people from the Sino-sphere feel differently, for they are all around me in San Diego, and seem to welcome this system. It fits with their desire to control and be controlled, something that I do not believe many in the West--especially those who believe in the saving grace of Jesus-- share.
one could argue that believing in the likes of jesus or any other form of religiosity is also a form of mind control.
a book that has been manipulated, re-translated, added to, subtracted from is supposed to be the font of truth amongst a world of lies. hmm....... maybe, but equally, maybe not.
I hear you, Esme. I understand this perspective because I was raised to believe that western Enlightenment secularism, framed as American republicanism, is the best form of earthly wisdom we could imagine. But after everything that has happened since 9/11, and especially 2020, and the bizarre--what else to call it--"secret society Luciferian occultism" that is evident in much of America's "elites," I now question that assumption. I also have many--what else to call them--"family curses" that come from this place, with some members engaging in active New Age witchcraft, in an attempt to "heal" such wounds. They are hypnotized by Silent Gen/Baby Boomer popular culture mind control that I already felt deeply oppressed by as a young person, even if only recently I have attempted to return to Christ.
Lead by example? no it is: follow this way or else. that is how I view communism. convenience over consciousness. There is no more conscious thought when you are programmed to let them take over every aspect of you! No cash, computers fail- (that IS reality)
There’s much more freedom in China than there is in America. People are so foolish to believe that Americans are free that they can’t realize how much freedom there is in the country of China.
I watched the Songping X account for a pretty good while and I thought it might be true. But somebody here on stack said they know people in China who say that the social credit system is not the brutal system that Songping describes. I don't know for sure but maybe Songping is full of shit???
Just any one of many conditioning stalking horses ('a figure used to test a concept or mount a challenge on behalf of an anonymous third party'). The obviousness of littering the streets with locked out people is indeed an illogical self-defeating construct; look no further than tent towns in DEM cities.
On the other hand, the extreme imposition of social discredit (call it what it is!) appears a tool for seamless, faceless and absolute coercion potentially ending in death by 'iatrogenesis.' ... (oblique hat tip to Trump's 'Genesis Mission'), and a double benefit for the eugenicist globalists. The declared goal of the psychopaths (one of the competing ideological hierarchies behind the curtain) is to reduce the global populace.
The multiple implementation of societal assault all end tellingly in diminished longevity or death. Consider: destitution, delegitimisation, deindustrialisation, dependency, delinquency, depravity, disillusionment, demoralisation, to name some.
If sufficient people detach from the system it weakens or fails. Regrettably, too many appear at this juncture to feel they have too much to lose. In the end, presumably with nothing left to lose, inaction will finally become reaction?
From that perspective then, the 5G War is neither winnable nor sustainable for its proponents?
I wish I had a clue what They're up to. Aside from aiming to control Us (who survive Their assaults) 100%, I am unclear. The likely specifics escape Me.
"They," the puppeteers behind the veil, WILL devour themselves in a competing hierarchical orgy of destruction.
It's no fun being the meat in the sandwich, but we need to turn and direct the minds of the many to wider awareness and getting through this travail (tribulation).
Well... That is what My work is all about, solving for the moneyed psychopaths in control on Our planet (by virtue of money). Though I doubt the hidden hand will devour itself. It's been pushing Humanity for millennia. But strip Them of Their single tool to power.......
This is largely anti-China propaganda. There is no social credit system there that is any different to what is in other countries. I can’t understand why people keep pushing this.
Maybe it's true that these messages are exagerated for whatever purposes and basic life functions are not impacted but I believe the digital ID and digital monetary system is not being introduced to control billions of humans for decades of their lives. I feel it's all about letting us continue to function so long as we are compliant with all mandated medical interventions such as "clot shots".
They don't want people being unable to eat or function in society, they want us all to submit to their medical interventions so we will die of manufactured illnesses and diseases decades earlier than if we didn't submit to their poison. This enables them to continue gaslighting the masses by blaming all the deaths on natural causes due to "climate change" etc while pretending that their "system" is their to look after and protect us.
china is a product of the US 'state', think Kissinger et al a few decades back being instrumental in instigating technocracy in their puppet nation and, setting that huge country up as the production centre for all other nations.
some people no doubt feel that china is a utopia for them, if they wish to exist in a technocrat state of course.
the video's you mention are likely just click bait. we are encouraged to 'create' online content for the purposes of commerce. such click bait video's generate income which is then taxable and so keeps the usurious debit credit banking control system going whilst it transitions into the technocratic 'block chain' human management system which is just the digital upgrade of what we have been living under for the last few hundred years.
maybe to ultimate goal after this step is completed is to digitise us, so we can be immortal. something to digest.....
can't be sure, but the photograph of the quarantine camp doesn't look right. specifically the white-clad person nearest the first cubicle, is that real? doctored all the way down....
indeed. wearing the white suits while standing ouside doesn't make sense: if an allegedly dangerously infected patient is to be quaranteened inside a cubicle, than, no matter the funky narrative-du-jour, it's inside, being in contact with the patient, that staff needs to wear it. allegedly. the suit needs to be taken off before going outside and one needs to put on a fresh one (!!) before entering the next cubicle. any room used to quarantine a patient would have a sealable corridor-type space to put on and take off such a suit. one shouldn't wear the suit being outside, on the contrary, wearing it outside will make it contaminated (what with the allegedly deadly virus being everywhere) and therefore unfit to be wearing it going inside a cubicle with a patient.
Why would people comply when the vids clearly show compliance can lead to destitution?? Clearly, they're meant to scare people into resistance, non-compliance and revolt if it's forced. All good things. This is 5th Gen Warfare to prevent it from ever taking hold here.
I realized to add, the Uyghur muslims do not seem to be having much fun in China.
All of the above. The deep state wants the entire world on digital IDs so that it can dictate terms and you have no choices other than what they give you. I believe this is part of the depopulation agenda.
In very, very chilling UNspeak, "no one will be left behind."
China, for several years by now, has been pioneering the extent to which autocracy still works without the people being unable to take it anymore. (Refusing has never been an option.)
I have a half-baked article on the subject somewhere, but never finished it. It also included bank accounts suddenly becoming unavailable, ridiculously-low wages, and empty high-rises, because workers can't afford the rent. Perhaps I should publish it, after all.
China has a huge number of paid agents spreading "good news" about the country.
Yes. You don't need a black car that comes at dawn and takes you away because you don't like the way the communist party works, it's enough to score members of the population... Of course, we don't know what they do with the "really bad" ones... For example, during the "covid" period, we saw how collaborators slander those who proclaim the truth...
... and China didn't need internment camps to lock people up in their own apartments to the brink of starvation. Of course, camps also exist, but they exist in the US, too, except the ones here are privately-run. The usual scam of democracy by privatizing profits and socializing losses.
Much of what you say isn’t true, Ray. I know, because I’ve lived here for 20 years. Did you know that the American government spends over US$1 billion a year spreading anti-China propaganda about the country of China. Anything China does that Americans don’t like was invented by the Americans long ago, including the spread of fear, fake news, wars, propaganda and hatred towards other countries.
My impression is that the US taxpayer's money is always lavishly spent, serving the controlled demolition of the USD, and it's important to keep up appearances.
I am aware of the paid agents setting up China as an enemy, but the US govt and businesses demonstrate the opposite.
My next post (probably on Wednesday) will be about China, so we'll have more time to discuss such details.
I am also worried that China is too large, and generalization might not go much further than the obvious (which applies to the US, too).
Your questions about the purpose of "social credit score propaganda" at the end are good ones. I guess the motivations could be various and multifaceted, with chaos and conflict as first-level objectives, and then greater top-down control, as deeper objectives. For me, it does not matter what the objectives are. I recoil at this bio-digital great reset that is obviously going forward with greater and greater speed, for I feel that it portends, on some level, complete loss of human freedom. It is an anti-Christian, anti-human system, one that to me always harkens back to original sin, the idea that human beings can become God if they just do X, Y, Z, and give their souls over to creation and not creator. I personally am feeling incredibly weary and ground-down by this imminent beast system, even if it is only in its infant stages. I don't like it, even if it is not as bad as videos like the one above imply. I know that many people from the Sino-sphere feel differently, for they are all around me in San Diego, and seem to welcome this system. It fits with their desire to control and be controlled, something that I do not believe many in the West--especially those who believe in the saving grace of Jesus-- share.
one could argue that believing in the likes of jesus or any other form of religiosity is also a form of mind control.
a book that has been manipulated, re-translated, added to, subtracted from is supposed to be the font of truth amongst a world of lies. hmm....... maybe, but equally, maybe not.
I hear you, Esme. I understand this perspective because I was raised to believe that western Enlightenment secularism, framed as American republicanism, is the best form of earthly wisdom we could imagine. But after everything that has happened since 9/11, and especially 2020, and the bizarre--what else to call it--"secret society Luciferian occultism" that is evident in much of America's "elites," I now question that assumption. I also have many--what else to call them--"family curses" that come from this place, with some members engaging in active New Age witchcraft, in an attempt to "heal" such wounds. They are hypnotized by Silent Gen/Baby Boomer popular culture mind control that I already felt deeply oppressed by as a young person, even if only recently I have attempted to return to Christ.
Good points Chris.
Lead by example? no it is: follow this way or else. that is how I view communism. convenience over consciousness. There is no more conscious thought when you are programmed to let them take over every aspect of you! No cash, computers fail- (that IS reality)
There’s much more freedom in China than there is in America. People are so foolish to believe that Americans are free that they can’t realize how much freedom there is in the country of China.
I watched the Songping X account for a pretty good while and I thought it might be true. But somebody here on stack said they know people in China who say that the social credit system is not the brutal system that Songping describes. I don't know for sure but maybe Songping is full of shit???
Just any one of many conditioning stalking horses ('a figure used to test a concept or mount a challenge on behalf of an anonymous third party'). The obviousness of littering the streets with locked out people is indeed an illogical self-defeating construct; look no further than tent towns in DEM cities.
On the other hand, the extreme imposition of social discredit (call it what it is!) appears a tool for seamless, faceless and absolute coercion potentially ending in death by 'iatrogenesis.' ... (oblique hat tip to Trump's 'Genesis Mission'), and a double benefit for the eugenicist globalists. The declared goal of the psychopaths (one of the competing ideological hierarchies behind the curtain) is to reduce the global populace.
The multiple implementation of societal assault all end tellingly in diminished longevity or death. Consider: destitution, delegitimisation, deindustrialisation, dependency, delinquency, depravity, disillusionment, demoralisation, to name some.
If sufficient people detach from the system it weakens or fails. Regrettably, too many appear at this juncture to feel they have too much to lose. In the end, presumably with nothing left to lose, inaction will finally become reaction?
From that perspective then, the 5G War is neither winnable nor sustainable for its proponents?
I wish I had a clue what They're up to. Aside from aiming to control Us (who survive Their assaults) 100%, I am unclear. The likely specifics escape Me.
But They surely are aiming to nail Us down.
"They," the puppeteers behind the veil, WILL devour themselves in a competing hierarchical orgy of destruction.
It's no fun being the meat in the sandwich, but we need to turn and direct the minds of the many to wider awareness and getting through this travail (tribulation).
It won't devour itself. Its been playing this game for hundreds of years. The hidden hand has the game down to a science.
Yes, it is very tightly controlled, spying from top down and with serious consequences to stray.
There is no 'it' here.
Merely mortal, fallible, terminal megalomaniacal individuals who sleep, eat, flatulate and defecate like everyone else.
And yes, the evidence of multiple competing agendas seeking to become solitary, apical totalitarian's appears compelling.
Question is: is there sufficient mass to derail the Agenda that has been hoisted to the mast with a nailed down due date of 2030?
Well... That is what My work is all about, solving for the moneyed psychopaths in control on Our planet (by virtue of money). Though I doubt the hidden hand will devour itself. It's been pushing Humanity for millennia. But strip Them of Their single tool to power.......
Why Money is Not in Your Best Interest (article): https://amaterasusolar.substack.com/p/why-money-is-not-in-your-best-interest
This is largely anti-China propaganda. There is no social credit system there that is any different to what is in other countries. I can’t understand why people keep pushing this.
Maybe it's true that these messages are exagerated for whatever purposes and basic life functions are not impacted but I believe the digital ID and digital monetary system is not being introduced to control billions of humans for decades of their lives. I feel it's all about letting us continue to function so long as we are compliant with all mandated medical interventions such as "clot shots".
They don't want people being unable to eat or function in society, they want us all to submit to their medical interventions so we will die of manufactured illnesses and diseases decades earlier than if we didn't submit to their poison. This enables them to continue gaslighting the masses by blaming all the deaths on natural causes due to "climate change" etc while pretending that their "system" is their to look after and protect us.
china is a product of the US 'state', think Kissinger et al a few decades back being instrumental in instigating technocracy in their puppet nation and, setting that huge country up as the production centre for all other nations.
some people no doubt feel that china is a utopia for them, if they wish to exist in a technocrat state of course.
the video's you mention are likely just click bait. we are encouraged to 'create' online content for the purposes of commerce. such click bait video's generate income which is then taxable and so keeps the usurious debit credit banking control system going whilst it transitions into the technocratic 'block chain' human management system which is just the digital upgrade of what we have been living under for the last few hundred years.
maybe to ultimate goal after this step is completed is to digitise us, so we can be immortal. something to digest.....
Once again we write on similar lines Proton!
https://francesleader.substack.com/p/what-is-it-like-living-in-china
Thanks for joining and good post!
can't be sure, but the photograph of the quarantine camp doesn't look right. specifically the white-clad person nearest the first cubicle, is that real? doctored all the way down....
I also thought any that don't move could be mannequins.
indeed. wearing the white suits while standing ouside doesn't make sense: if an allegedly dangerously infected patient is to be quaranteened inside a cubicle, than, no matter the funky narrative-du-jour, it's inside, being in contact with the patient, that staff needs to wear it. allegedly. the suit needs to be taken off before going outside and one needs to put on a fresh one (!!) before entering the next cubicle. any room used to quarantine a patient would have a sealable corridor-type space to put on and take off such a suit. one shouldn't wear the suit being outside, on the contrary, wearing it outside will make it contaminated (what with the allegedly deadly virus being everywhere) and therefore unfit to be wearing it going inside a cubicle with a patient.
photo-op.
Well said ML!
Why would people comply when the vids clearly show compliance can lead to destitution?? Clearly, they're meant to scare people into resistance, non-compliance and revolt if it's forced. All good things. This is 5th Gen Warfare to prevent it from ever taking hold here.