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denise ward's avatar

I salute you for sparring with him. This is such a pattern. It's the same pattern we saw when "normies" wanted others to mask up, when they truly believed there was a pandemic and refused to consider anything else. Because they saw it on the news and it was on day and night and thus it became real to them. Yes we must call out mistakes when they occur. People of insight would welcome it. It is only people who have their ego still steering them that want to censor. Censorship is a strong indicator of those who are not as advanced as they think they are. Because our voice is the only tool we have against the predators and to stop a peer from exercising their voice means you're on the side of the assailants. Real seekers of truth want the truth good or bad, it's something we value above all.

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Proton Magic's avatar

Thanks Denise you are largely correct. On Mr. 2nd, its more than ego though. “He” puts out large numbers of posts that is nearly impossible for one person, and sells dangerous mectins. His reply to me was canned. He is a cell of more than one person and may include AI. He is virus pushing, and thus part of the agenda. Regards. PM

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denise ward's avatar

Thanks for addressing that. I take your word for it. Because he banned you I know he has nothing important to offer. He must be well behind where we are. Anyone who handles information that way is still very immature and not driven to evolve.

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Proton Magic's avatar

He/them/it is clearly COINTELPRO it's their job's mandate not maturity.

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Alan, aka DudeInMinnetonka's avatar

I recall a prior conversation where I invited the proponent of they don't exist theories to make out with someone with open herpes sores and the hesitation was plausible and acknowledgment was made yet this argument still continues onward with hundreds of comments I don't understand but then again much of the world believes in a virgin birth Resurrection fairy tale that says implausible impossible and illogical upon every examination and here we are

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Proton Magic's avatar

Herpes is indeed a mystery. Still, it is possible to get "something" from a person with sores from a kiss, a toxin? a cell signal? and then have these recurring sores for life, doesn't mean they are a virus, but acyclovir may indeed make them go away in 2 days vs 10 days with no acyc-I suppose it is jamming the inflammation, and I don't think the 10 days of sores is helpful to rid one of toxins. I'm one of those persons.

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pobrecollie's avatar

Herpes is something that actually makes me believe in viral germ theory less.

I have suffered from the ones on my lips since I was a kid. Acyclovir was the wonder drug that had just hit the market in the early 90s when I was studying biology, and theoretically it was amazing. Problem was it cost 5 quid at the time for a tiny tube (a reasonable amount of money for a student then), and basically didn't work (tea tree oil, or iodine are far better in my experience).

And just like colds, they seem to be far more related to my body being stressed. A couple of nights of poor sleep or when I was younger, a long weekend of partying could bring on those things far more reliably than contact with someone else suffering from them.

Still don't think I would go for unprotected sex with a sufferer of genital herpes based on that though.

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Shirley Jane Hodge's avatar

When some of these experts talk about the Covid virus they are only referring to the time of the issues so people know what the subject is at hand,, they are not refering to the fact that it is a virus that you seem to believe they are saying.. Also when they talk about the pandemic they are refering to the issue they are speaking about they do not have to explain all the time that it is fake.

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Proton Magic's avatar

If words don't have definitions then we do not speak English together, and words will then be used mistakenly, or on purpose to deceive.

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Shirley Jane Hodge's avatar

Its how I interpret many of the speakers that i listen to, some may not want to express everything as a Bio Weap everytime when they are talking for probably most of their audience that are listening to them know it is what it is.

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Proton Magic's avatar

I understand but you can not believe these operatives they are only experts in propaganda. YOU yourself need to find a paper finding a virus in a vax. Since this doesn't exist, you are being played.

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Shirley Jane Hodge's avatar

The viruses was added to the jabs so now you know

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Proton Magic's avatar

There is no paper isolating and showing there is a virus in a jab. Do you have one?

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Shirley Jane Hodge's avatar

Its dr. Ardis says all the time where the information is. He is always saying where he finds his information however, i am not the genius like he is to remember everything. Probably also in his extensive book he put out as well. Consider this, the DNA plasmas is instructions and he speaks on his findings as to what they have revealed in the DNA Plasmasas. Now does he know everything for sure what they put in he can go only by what is revealed and believe me he goes through what they say with a fine tooth come. And he clearly says in my opinion of what he says they have admitted to Venom and spats of Rabies. Now that said i am sure they are constantly doing different things with some of the lots. Well i believe there is information he tells often what he finds and where he finds stuff. No there is no Covid virus or MRNA in jabs but there is Venom which can be interpeted as a virus, and he said they have claimed to put Rabie pieces in (if they choose so) Once person is injected they themselves become a factory and produce these as spike proteins shedding More i could say but i don't have time tonight to write a book.

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Proton Magic's avatar

Look, we went over this on another post, you can't keep chasing me around comment sections. If you do this again I will have to start deleting your comments and maybe ban you as chasing others around comments is against the TOS in the About page. You don't read the original papers and you don't understand basic biologic logic. If you don't agree with this then make your own post about it, make 20 posts about it, ok?

Dr. Ardis is a blatant liar I proved this to you last week

https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-time-warp-docs/comment/94285768

here:

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This is the paper Ardid promotes

"Toxin-like peptides in plasma, urine and faecal samples from COVID-19 patients"

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8772524/

HEY! Did you notice there were no control subjects thus no blinding to the researchers as to the "Covid status", more importantly, since there is no covid virus nor pcr that refers to anything covid, it is all a dog and pony BS propaganda paper promoting that Covid-19 is a thing and distracting from the fact there is no virus.

I'm not sure why you didn't understand my comment above, you CAN NOT be envenomated orally unless you have a cut in your gut. Kapisch?

https://ufwildlife.ifas.ufl.edu/venomous_snake_faqs.shtml

No kids or animals got envenomated or even had "Covid", and neither the air nor water can have venom, it would be too dilute and peptides would break up.

5G, toxins ("disinfectants") on some pcr swabs and some masks, and Covid shots made people sick, maybe some disinfectant sprays.

☞I don't have the right adjectives for Chiropracter Ardis, so will leave that out.

☞Now you and I have said our parts on this lets stop the discussion now so that the comment section doesn't become "venom city".

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denise ward's avatar

Though I agree with your interpretations of the virus (there aren't any) I strongly object to your threatening to cut off this commenter's comments. If you don't wish to tackle his comments, then don't. But cutting him off is a really bad crime against sovereignty and freedom of speech. It is so important to uphold free speech. What harm can it do? If you don't like it just scroll by or say a word or three and you be done with it. Rather than tell others what they MUST do, you make your own moves without threatening or intimidating others. Please.

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Proton Magic's avatar

This person is chasing me on this thread and on another post I noted, that is clearly out of the TOS on the About page. It is my SS and there is a balance between free speech and chasing that becomes harassing, making the comment section a poor read for viewers, and maybe even the propaganda tactic of making a mess of the comments. She had ample number of comments to say her piece on both this and the prior post, she needs to move on. It is fair for writers to protect their comment sections from abuse and give warning to desist.

You did read I noted this her chasing me on other posts, "Look, we went over this on another post", and I pasted it in.

Commenters can't keep chasing me around comment sections of various posts and expect to continue that on mine too. If you think that is ok behaviour that is your opinion, but it is in the TOS that is open for everybody before they comment here, which is free and also free speech, but not free harassment.

Now, the venom narrative is also a COINTELPRO narrative. My SS is not a good place to try that trick and I will limit it.

You could of course invite Shirley to continue her free speech on your own SS. Free choice.

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Shirley Jane Hodge's avatar

Only for the reason that i do not prove anything apparently. You're welcome to research this or don't. Search: Science Direct.com then look for article line that mentions Beyond the peril of envenomation: A nanotechnology approach for therapeutic Venom delivery.

2nd research NIH.gov/Venom Separation look for a line that that mentions ADVANCES IN VENOMIC SEPARATION TECHNIQUES

Sometimes i can find these articles easy sometimes i get problems finding them. These article's clearly go beyond just going out into the woods to get bit.

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Shirley Jane Hodge's avatar

I forgot one. IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO SO. Search: Can Venom spread through Air and by Water

Look for article VENOM CAN SPREAD THROUGH AIR AND WATER

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The Mick's avatar

".......another one bites the dust"🎶

It's time to turn up the heat up on these robo pro cointel accomplices of medical murder by known fraudulent misinformation, leading to death and grevious bodily harm,

now that it's law..what I was waiting for....😁, thank you bureaucrats 😂.

No proof of a virus, Guilty!

Neglect of duty of care, Guilty!

Profiting off, promotion and selling of illegal, untested and publicly undeclared experimental poisons, guilty!

Forced known harmful medical procedures, guilty!

The last warning, the iron rod is next.

The people of the world, now see the fraud, Justice must be done.

To recent this atrocity ever happening again.

Examples must be made.

The 4 year opportunity of repentance has passed.

The Iron Rod is coming....

Keep rockin'

The Mick.

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Banned me 2 years ago 🤣. Not that I'm bragging of course.

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Truth Barbarian's avatar

He shill’s ivermectin too! Nobody needs it and it will do more harm sterilizing people and their gut microbiome then good. So there that too.

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pobrecollie's avatar

That's a red flag for me.

There was nothing serious enough about the deadly pandemic to warrant pharmaceutical. It was a rebranded flu and massive propaganda campaign in my opinion.

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denise ward's avatar

I totally agree with you on that.

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Dennis T.'s avatar

“I’m beginning to wonder if Substack was made to give these folks a platform, and to find out how many of us on the other side there are and who we are. “

Very good observation! I’m beginning to think the same thing.

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pobrecollie's avatar

My facebook feed feels like that these days when I occasionally log on.

I barely see anything from my friends, it's all either ads or some post pushing the moon landing (probably a scam) the climate scam, or some pro / anti vegan stuff or similar provocative stuff depending where you lie on the political spectrum. My feeling is that it is data harvesting to get an idea of the number of people in each camp.

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Aria Veritas's avatar

Back in the day, almost two years ago now, I deep dived in to the name "Substack" and why I chose Substack over Medium. Found some very, very interesting things there. And yes, I do believe Ss is here to provide the basis for the metaphoric, metaphysic fire that will clean things up. The dividing line between the Cyclops and the Furies.

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Charlie's avatar

I concur. This is becoming yahoo and then ZH years later. All the intelligent people just leave when the bullies, trolls, and as pm susses out-frauds.

For now, the best thingy going but soon to be ruined…

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:jamie;'s avatar

Mr 2nd (as you refer to him as) cannot even reveal his identity, instead hiding behind an avatar. Surely he’s smart enough to upload a photo to his profile. A definite ‘wrong ‘un’ in every sense.

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Proton Magic's avatar

"He" is clearly a "Them" or an "it" (AI) because of the volume of posts.

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Jerome Armstrong's avatar

There's not a more thin-skinned writer here haha. He was quoting Conservative Treehouse the other day showing his colors; next he will be shilling for Trump.

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artermix's avatar

I would want to be recognized as the "not so bright among many”……allows for a certain degree of freedom in the era of digital surveillance via internet forums post.

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Carmen's avatar

"I’m beginning to wonder if Substack was made to give these folks a platform, and to find out how many of us on the other side there are and who we are".

It's very probable. Indeed, I wonder the same thing about any plarform that allows "free speech", like Telegram.

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Proton Magic's avatar

You can be sure complex webs like this, likely even with detailed personal info exist in Intel circles, maybe even corporate circles like SS. Then again is there really a line between Intel and corporate?

https://embed.kumu.io/aa2db58261b57e8678cdbb12b4bf58b3#scientology-plandemonium

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The Mick's avatar

Let's "smoke 'em out"😉, he can't be 2nd if you and I exist 😂, then there's the beyond spectacular intelligence of the free thinking people on substack to consider, especially Mary Anne, fantastic in depth research, tunable metamaterials, I'm just an enthusiastic amateur, on a mission to create " heaven on Earth" WITHOUT the dogma and indoctrination of the fire and brimstone NWO religious zealots.

"Bash on regardless" ......the controlled opposition IS the NWO intelligence arm, very silly , I thank The Creator for woke hiring, they should have remained behind closed doors......now where's Flipper lol " thanks for the fish, now I know what the bowl of Petunia's were on about.

Cheers 🍀

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Richard Seager's avatar

I've worked out that if you don't restrict your Substack then approximately 1% of subscribers will pay. You need a 100k subscribers therefore to get 1000 paid ones. Is that enough for a salary? Maybe if you live cheaply it is. Don't forget you have to fund your own research as well. So there's hardly anybody here making money. Does it die if we abandon it? If we're not making money how is Substack making money?

I'm also banned by Mr 2nd for exactly the same reason if I remember correctly (it was a year or so ago).

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pobrecollie's avatar

Is substack the sort of thing people expect to pay a full time wage?

I had assumed it was more of a side gig for people.

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DrLatusDextro's avatar

If one could just get the virus dependent and addicted 'docs' to read the relevant science....a most unlikely supposition, there would be a chance to alter the narrative. Regrettably, like the addict, their cortical and thalamic control knobs are fried.

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