"This is the same strategy with Covid, the planes are the virus, neither exist and both of these non-exist truths must be guarded at all costs. The bldgs’ controlled demolition corresponds to the pandemic numbers and/or the bioweapon story. They are happy for us to argue about these issues forever."
Spot on to a degree ... yes the planes are more important than the buildings and WTC-7 especially is a propaganda decoy ... the planes are more important not only because their fakery immediately means the buildings came down by controlled demolition and any need to question what caused their destructions is immediately obviated by that clear fact but also because:
1. Planes keep the focus more on the ludicrous failure of defence while the buildings keep focus off that
2. It means the passenger deaths were faked and the fakery of the passenger deaths can more easily lead to the questioning of ALL the deaths
The most important element of the 9/11 story is the False Dilemma propaganda strategy. The propagandists anticipated the disbelievers of their nonsense story, of course, and they had a propaganda campaign all worked out for them. Very few truthers, however, really understand the False Dilemma propaganda strategy and even when you try to explain it they're resolutely anchored in their "the evil US government cold-bloodedly and callously murdered all those poor people in the buildings."
Generally, in response to my statement, "It was really just a big demolition job where the planes and death and injury were faked," I get the response, "Oh, they wouldn't care about the people," or "They would have killed the people for real because that was easier / for more emotional impact."
No, of course, they don't care about the people but just because they don't care about the people doesn't mean they killed them, they can always have other reasons not to kill them.
Easier to kill them as an argument? "Easier" doesn't come into psyops. They don't care how hard or difficult anything is to do in a psyop. Who's paying for it? The punters. They are not concerned about "easier", they are concerned about pulling off the psyop exactly the way it suits them whatever way that is.
For greater emotional impact? No, no, no, no, no. Propaganda is not about doing things for real for greater emotional impact, propaganda is about fakery, it's about pushing people's buttons but using fakery to do it which is probably very psychologically damaging ... and just what they want.
The irony is that while you can propagandise and coerce thousands upon thousands of health professionals to inject people with toxins that injure, maim and kill, you cannot propagandise and coerce demolition professionals to only partially evacuate buildings before destroying them, that's not a thing. Anyone who doesn't think there were a lot of demolition professionals involved in destroying over seven buildings at the World Trade Centre??? All the buildings were either completely destroyed or severely "damaged" on 9/11 - no doubt the "damaged" ones had a little help from the demolition professionals.
I know someone who was in the vicinity of the WTC on 9/11 and he said he saw a plane heading to the South tower although he didn't see it penetrate so perhaps what he saw was a hologram but the most important fact about the planes is that none of the alleged passenger airliners crashed which means none of the alleged passengers died in a plane crash. That's the most important element. Whether it was holograms, military aircraft, some other kind of aeronautical object - whatever - all distraction propaganda. All that matters is that it wasn't the nominated passenger airliners so no one died in a plane crash. Sure, I wouldn't mind knowing what they used to create the planes for the people who were there (something different from what we're shown on film I think) but it's really not of crucial importance.
My post here explains 9/11 in a nutshell. If you're already on board with it being an inside job you can skip the 15 points from David Ray Griffin and go from there.
Hi Petra, your comment here is amazing! Can I put this short part in the body of the post and link your comment here to the quote?
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The planes are more important not only because their fakery immediately means the buildings came down by controlled demolition and any need to question what caused their destructions is immediately obviated by that clear fact but also because:
1. Planes keep the focus more on the ludicrous failure of defense while the buildings keep focus off that.
2. It means the passenger deaths were faked and the fakery of the passenger deaths can more easily lead to the questioning of ALL the deaths.
The most important fact about the planes is that none of the alleged passengers died in a plane crash. Very few truthers, really understand the False Dilemma propaganda strategy and even when you try to explain it they're resolutely anchored in their "the evil US government cold-bloodedly and callously murdered all those poor people in the buildings." Propaganda is about pushing people's buttons but using fakery to do it.
Of course, PM. I'm so chuffed you get it. I put up a post a few years ago about how WTC-7 was a propaganda decoy and got zero response. I mean ZERO and I'm like, "Come on, this is an interesting point." No one responded.
If you don't get around to reading it just watch this video about WTC-7 made to Tom Petty's Free Fallin'. It's truly a work of propagandist art and It's FANTASTIC in the way you can tell it's the perps themselves who've made it and they're laughing their heads off at how they TELL us it's CD.
I saw that and much thanks. I think you wrote...and Lahina but I think you meant Covid.
Unfortunately I've also been tormented with Lahaina but don't have the info or guts to write about it yet. My circle is still into the natural wildfire cause...
What happened to those passengers? I had a client whose husband was on the flight that “crashed” in Pennsylvania. There’s no doubt that he didn’t return home. 🤔
Yes me too, a brother of someone. No one knows but choices: They agreed to be agents of a special mission or were agents from before, got on a plane that landed in Ohio got off and made the "phone calls" from the ground. They they were given new identities and maybe plastic surgery (see the top link section about the callers-one who seemed to have actually done this), or they were "put to sleep" or otherwise disposed of. I think the former for most. That plane was said by radar to have gone on and landed at a military base in VA. But no, they are not in that fake crash hole of dirt.
Yeah, that's hilarious. Have you seen Hoodwinked at Shanksville? Absolutely love it! People in the comments complain about the background music, something I normally don't like myself but in this video I think it suits it perfectly.
getting stabbed /owned. Usually yelled in a violent manner. Can be assoiciated with almost anything related to or in associated with hitting or wacking . (no homo) GET SHANKED MOFO dude chill out
That's what I'd like to know. I know a ridiculously large number of people considering the seeming unlikelihood who know people or know people who know people involved in these events ... but they're no wiser than the rest of us.
The only psyops where I've seen the people afterwards are Sandy Hook where there are images of the children older (the images of the children at the time of Sandy Hook are old images of them a few years younger than they were at the time) and the totally classic Challenger Disaster where all the people are either supposedly a twin of the person who died, have exactly the same name or have a very slightly different name. It's phenomenal but even though the people mostly simply keep their actual name when you tell people it was a psyop and the people are the same they refute it!
This "passenger's" brother says his brother has never been found or seen since-he even bought into most of the official narrative. I also have a relative escaped one of the towers, he worked there many years, still alive now. Not really sure what he thinks of 9.11.
I've exchanged comments with someone who knows a person who escaped the towers too and they're adamant that the deaths were real simply because they know this person but the staged hypothesis accommodates genuine evacuation - not only accommodates it but expects it.
I didn't read your comment properly the first time and thought you said it was your client on the flight rather than client's husband. I'm not very good at interpreting emojis but does yours suggest that perhaps he might have had another woman somewhere else?
I think they have loads of agents with their ears to the ground looking for people who have motives to "disappear" - some might wish to leave their spouses, some might have oppressive families they wish to get away from. some might want to move to a different country, some might have terminal illnesses and are going to die anyway and, of course, some might just want the money. I wonder how long the list is of motives to participate in these events? What happened to Barbara Olson I wonder, for some reason she really intrigues me.
I don’t really know I hadn’t really thought about it that way. But in this case they lived in California and she was pregnant with their first child and she was supposed to go to a wedding in New York according to her with her husband and they got in a fight so she stayed behind. Plus she was pregnant and he went And then she never heard from him again. She moved back to Michigan because that was where her family was, and I was at her house, and she had received a huge settlement. She lived in an expensive house in an expensive neighborhood, and her son had never met his father , so good question and the emoji by the way is a Hmmmmmm? I wonder…
I meant to reply earlier but didn't. OK, so it seems as though you only knew her in Michigan not back when she was in California? To me it it sounds less like the husband abandoned her and more like the "fight" was a concocted story and perhaps she'd gotten pregnant to someone or perhaps even by donor egg and agreed to marry this guy in order to get the payoff or something like that perhaps. Or perhaps it really was abandonment - the guy wanted to opt out and he engineered the fight so she didn't go. Very intriguing. Perhaps again there was no husband at all and the guy was completely made up. Do you know what his name was?
No, I didn’t know his name. I also can’t recall hers because it was a long time ago now that she was my client. I barely knew her; I designed her landscape at her house in about 2006.
If you view the whole event of 9/11 as a Hollywood production with scriptwriters, managers, special effects operators, and crisis actors hitting their marks perfectly on the day then you also have to accept that if anything went wrong it would blow the whole operation wide open and all the perps would immediately rat on all their buddies and the public would know exactly who to go after for payback.
Just saying.
And whichever way you view Lucky Larry's involvement in the whole affair, it certainly should be front and center in these discussions. His family not in the buildings that day as well as many other prominent friends and associates.
Then you have to judge whether the insurance claims and the need to demolish the asbestos laden buildings "carefully by hand" provides enough motivation to set up the "Hollywood production" and bring the buildings down "some other way" with a little help from Larry's friends.
We also know that the Pentagon had plans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan followed by other countries in the ME. They just needed the right crisis to magically appear. A new Pearl Harbor no less.
That said, there are still many 9/11 Truth talking points that make absolutely zero sense and have not been satisfactorily settled since the whole thing kicked off.
Good points. My guess is that the mix of compartmentalization of tasks and use of tried and proven absolute cult followers born and bred into the fold (Masons, Jesuits, etc), along with an observant enforcement arm could keep the machine in order. For Covid which is also a complex enterprise most members follow their roles. Occasionally a member is either taken out of position or even worse we may never know, but this has not derailed the blob.
On what happened, there can only be one real truth. What is true is that an army of confusion agents and fake truth leaders have been sent out to the public to confuse us around and around, and also an army of 9.11 death squads, hit men, bribe men, and etc. to keep things under control. The cover up and damage control ghoules have been legend, usually they keep a few steps ahead of the real truthers, same as now in Covid. That's why I repeat that we are talking to ourselves ensconced in our little area of the universe with only so much influence on the public.
I agree we're being messed with from all angles. Sometimes I feel like Neo in the Matrix when he can't handle what Morpheus is showing him and just wants to puke!
"And whichever way you view Lucky Larry's involvement in the whole affair, it certainly should be front and center in these discussions. His family not in the buildings that day as well as many other prominent friends and associates."
Think about it. Who told us he wasn't there? Do you really think he breakfasted at Windows on the World every single morning but then just that very one day he didn't? No. This is propaganda targeted at the anticipated truthers, they want to encourage our feeling of "the evil US government cold-bloodedly and callously killing all those poor people." We don't need deaths at the WTC to know they're evil - look at now - but they didn't kill people (or at least not that we can see for sure) on 9/11 because on 9/11 it didn't suit them. On the contrary, what suited them so much better was to create a very-very-very-difficult-belief-for-the-normies-to-take-on - that they very evilly did kill the people. Of course, for normies they can't even take on the notion of Sandy Hook where those who refute the story say no child was killed so imagine them taking on 9/11 where the refuters are saying the US government killed those poor people? They will not believe it.
Sorry I'm a little lost in the discussion as I'm rushing to go out. What I mean is many people, mostly normies, will not be able to accept the govt intentionally killing their own people and that stops them from seeing 9.11, and Covid, as intentional ops.
So are you saying that the propaganda to the truthers reinforcing the lie of real killing has worked very well because those who believe the terrorist story cannot understand why they would kill their own people and they can't get past it? In fact, on this occasion, yes they wouldn't kill their own people but obviously now they're going all out.
This is a great quote from Gerard Holmgren.
"The official story required either that one descended into total intellectual senility in order to still believe it – perhaps deliberately made ridiculous for that very purpose – or else that one keep one's intellect alive but destroy almost everything that one had previously believed about how society works." – 9/11 researcher, Gerard Holmgren, A Theory
Yes, I understand where you're coming from. We witnessed much of this tomfoolery in Syria with the White Hats and gas attacks and crisis actors, performance artists etc getting up after the "shoot" and dusting off the special effects makeup.
But surely in the case of 9/11 we can investigate the death records of people that supposedly died that day and in the following weeks and months due to toxic dust inhalation. Family members, friends, fellow workers can be contacted. This is more than 3000 New Yorkers we're talking about here, not the crew of the Space Shuttle https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Eluminate/alive-well-1986-challenger-crew or some foreigners in a far off land. A tad more difficult to fake that many deaths wouldn't you say?
But I get your drift... and yes, I've watched Wag the Dog and read material on psyops for years, it's just that sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette and the people running things obviously have zero problem doing that when required. They fund and manage both sides of all serious conflict with millions of deaths as a result. To say that a few of them may be faked to get the ball rolling matters not one bit at the end of the story.
It's possible we were both wrong after all. There is some annoying music, not sure what's wrong with these people, oh well that's not their strong point.
Thanks for the info! It will take a long while to get thru that. From my 20,000 foot view I can only say that 9.11 is like Covid, Enterprise fraud. Nothing can be left to chance. This means the no virus and attack by "PCR, Masks, hosp protocols, later shots" is no risk vs than some "thing" they can't control, and no planes and attack by "pre-planted bombs and media blitz & fakes" is no risk vs planes missing targets, having to deal with lots of families of deceased or military planes found crashed, etc. Just a very small perturbation could cause a plane to miss targets.
Agreed. I can see the parallels between 9/11 and Convid and probably many other prominent psyops and based on my response to Convid in particular I'm happy to correct my position on details to do with 9/11 if the evidence takes me that way, but I've found that the wilder the theories the harder they are to prove. Sometimes the simplest explanation (the most boring one) is the correct one.
It took me a looooog time to come round to the planes not actually existing at all. Not that i was studying it like crazy or anything, it was just too much to comprehend without having the evidence broken down. But now there is absolutlely no doubt about it. Zero planes crashed that day.
Have you watched the videos of the twin towers with very clear airplane shaped holes in the sides of the buildings before they fell?
Were they put there by "artists" using shaped charges? Isn't it easier just to fly a plane into the building?
If a plane didn't hit the Pentagon then what exactly knocked down the lamp posts a plane wingspan's width apart along the final flight path? No missile or drone has that wingspan.
On the penta, we can make many guesses or debates, the problem is they took all the camera footage. If there was a plane they should be happy to show us.
Were the posts cut ahead of time? No hologram it seems, if there was they would show it. Failed Hologram maybe? Explosion from inside the bldg is likely just like the WTC as in the vid above. Then again the footage would clear it all up. Since no footage their covering up something....No plane inside the penta, "it dissolved" is just like Shanksville BS.
If this is what we're still using to know what happened on that day... then I give up. People have no ability to discern the difference between scientifically validated information and attempts to gaslight the public with wild theories.
Yes, they held back camera footage at the Pentagon. They are the most powerful military in the world and IMO probably ran the whole operation that day with a little help from their friends in other countries.
People running out to the lamp posts to cut them down either before or after the impact would be observed by bystanders. It doesn't make any sense.
By far the simplest explanation is that planes were flown into the buildings and in IMO they were operated remotely by expert military pilots.
If that is wrong, then I need a lot more proof than some videos making hologram claims.
They found the flight recorders for these planes and the info matches what we saw on the day. Again, you would have to disprove all of these pieces of evidence before entertaining wild fantasies like holograms and DEWs. They are not required at all for 9/11 to unfold the way it did. Structural damage, column weakness, and pancake collapse are very well understood and explain everything that happened in the twin towers and building seven suffered severe structural damage and weaknesses just like the main towers. The silly claims there are completely wrong too.
It takes at least 2 hrs to give justice to the text and each video in it.
To me, if it's ok to give just my opinion, this explains best why plane wings didn't fall on the street, why people can stand at the window gash with a hot plane on the floor, and even with military controllers, the risk of missing target is too great, esp, Penta with ground effect. Personally I think each of 4 "planes" did things that violate many laws of physics and operational logic. I ditto Rob below on the "disaster artist" moniker.
Anyway, aside from the "divisive details", we all agree 1. smoke and mirrors were used for a false-flag attack, 2. propaganda and straight out lying and cover up was intense, 3. the main goal was the ME war, and 4. 19 rag-tag disco swanking ME guys did not fly passenger planes into the said targets (nor any plane into any target). 5. Yes the music in the 15 min vid was not the right choice!
I have watched the vids with the plane shaped holes and, i'll be honest, it does leave more questions than answers. All I can say is that are anomolies on both sides of the argument and I don't have all the answers. But I do know that the nosecone of the plane would not make it all the way through and then vanish into thin air. Like I said, it took me a very long time to see enough evidence that swayed me towards "no planes".
I'm not saying you have to agree. What we can say is that 9.11 was an onion of fakery on many levels. Regardless of this, personally, I dont think a real jet nose can get thru the steel and concrete on the in and on the out, not to mention the core....then what happened to the wing? Broke off on entry and is inside? Explaining these images as real is a daunting task of acrobatics compared with a projection or CG.
True...but we are the ones who want to know...everything...or as much as we possibly can... Small, though our cadre may be, it's still a force. and remember, low-profile is a good thing. Too much exposure gets you targeted and gang stalked...
As with all CGI and holographics, reference points (orbs) are needed for mapping, plotting and synchronization purposes.
Very likely the "orbs" are real drones in the area, that create the 3D points/origins for mapping spatial terrain enabling for a realistic projection in that space.
I've actually seen a DC 10 hologram fly 100 m past without any turbulence or appropriate sound.
It was visually real, in every visual sense.
The fact it did impossible maneuvers , without air displacement and relative sound artifacts and levels, I would have never of known.
If it is physically impossible for planes at that speed to hit a target, then there were no planes.Period.
If it is impossible physics for such a structure to freefall the way it did, then there were no structural integrity (or structure) when it fell.Period.
Deduction is simple and requires very little facts or technical stuff, to solve problems.
If it's impossible, then either 2 explanations are correct.
1) technology and methods that are deemed impossible , actually exist and were utilized on the day, by experts in the field.
2) the buildings did not fall, and it still exists, and it is a TV trick.
Since many have gone to the big apple and seen the towers gone, then only point 1 can be the truth.
Orbs maybe static "alternative phase spaces" surrounding Arial vehicles to dampen inertia by "gravity".
A bit like the electromagnetic fields generated by a "spinning top" defying "gravity".
Gravity is actually only buoyancy in thinly dispersed water aka "air" (atmosphere). Atmos - sphere.
Dry the air, around the craft, it becomes lightweight.
Just like all the aeroplanes conning us all for years ....
Wow! I just thought of something. Isn't it funny how you can study something for years and think you've pretty much got it (which you may well have ... or not) and then some little thing occurs to you and you wonder why neither you nor anyone else ever thought of it ... at least as far as you know.
Flights aren't referred to as Flight + No, they're referred to as Airline Code + No, and yet so very often all of the alleged 9/11 flights are simply referred to as Flight + No. It just occurred to me when I was checking that "Flight 175" was UA. I mean I knew it was but just checking. While Flight 11 is referred to as AA11 reasonably often Flight 175 is virtually never referred to as UA175 ... that's just one of their many, many ways of "revealing" the truth under all that magic propaganda dust.
Its always good to come back at this after a hiatus. I did 9.11 INTENSELY in 2019. Now coming back with fresh and open mind because it was sooo onioned. I added a section in the post on the CG guy. Just a few paragraphs, he's really great.
X-cellent post...and thank you for the props. So amazing to connect these dots - great comparisons.
Not much happens by accident. And that's been the case for eons.
And the head fakes are coming to a head, with the DEW reveals in Maui...many more are waking up to the horrors as they are scrambling to cover it up, evidently erecting fencing to keep everyone out now.
Uh, pulling 9/11 as an example, even metphorically, will usually cause a sh*tstorm ... at least in my experience ;-O
Though IMHO the Wiley-Coyote-physics purported in the 9/11 comission report is living proof that government and media were totally corrupted at least 20 years ago.
With GW's private part standing up on the lawn pointing to you know what, I think the corruption was much more than 20 years ago.
Here though 9.11 is more than an example, it's connected to the UFO fakery of flying objects and the propaganda value of, and need to hide, the truth about non-existent fake objects.
Off-topic but I just had to share and hope you don't mind, PM. So while 9/11 was a staged event apart from the buildings so was JFK's. I've looked at various aspects of the fakery for awhile now but just yesterday it occurred to me to look at how John Connally was injured. I interrogated ChatGPT and this was returned:
"John Connally, the Texas Governor who was seated in front of President John F. Kennedy in the same car during the assassination, was hit by a bullet during the event. The bullet that hit Connally is believed to be the same one that also struck Kennedy.
According to the official investigation by the Warren Commission, the single bullet that hit both Kennedy and Connally is known as the "magic bullet." This bullet entered Kennedy's upper back, exited through his throat, and then went on to strike Connally, causing multiple injuries. It entered Connally's back, shattered a rib, exited his chest, struck his wrist, and finally embedded itself in his thigh.
The trajectory of the bullet and the injuries sustained by Connally were the subject of much analysis and debate, as they were central to the Warren Commission's conclusion about the sequence of events during the assassination."
Hilarious, no? I cannot believe I didn't look at John Connally before. I vaguely knew about the "magic" bullet but just thought it was about it changing direction, I didn't realise it was supposedly the bullet that went through both of them and I vaguely thought that Connally's ear was clipped or something.
Now no one believes the bullet did what was said to John Connally so are we to believe that he was in on JFK's murder? No, we are not. JFK wasn't assassinated. Why his assassination was staged and where he went don't ask me ... and then there's his brother and his son. All mysteries. One explanation that comes to mind is that JFK, RFK and Marilyn set up a menage a trois but I know that's ridiculous.
This is very interesting. About JFK we'd have to have some explanation of the piece of head falling off on the car, I think it was witnessed (well any agent can be a witness) and both the orig and shimmied Zapruder film showed it. I can only think that JFK had he head shaved at that area and a bilayer prop was put in, bottom layer glued to his real scalp looking like skull blown out, and top layer that with the pull of a string fell off. That would be a bit of an acrobatic to pull off (no pun intended). I can see the propaganda value of shocking the public who would then be too numb to stop Viet Nam. Maybe other reasons. Was JFK really that stupid to ride an open car? Jackie didn't look very upset at Lyndon Blow Job's swearing in. If I was her I would have wanted to be alone and not have attended it.
RFK, would have also required serious props. Was RFK really that stupid to speak in public like that?
No Jackie's behaviour all along doesn't suggest someone undergoing the alleged event - I mean I know their marriage wasn't supposed to be the greatest but even so.
Zapruder was an agent and that film was obviously doctored ... I don't know how they managed the doctoring but there are a number of angles supporting fakery and nothing that clearly says real. Where on earth would the bullets have come from? They clearly didn't come from where they said they came from. The first thing to wake me up to 9/11 and JFK and all the rest of it was the film, JFK to 9/11 Everything is a Rich Man's Trick, in which the filmmaker posits the theory that the bullets came from a drain hole at the side of the road. It seemed plausible at the time but ... anyway too many angles supporting fakery and nothing convincing saying real.
So much propaganda pushed out about JFK just like 9/11. I came across an Italian film about various Italian people supposedly involved in the murder including the father of someone who'd emigrated to Australia and whose family was friends with my family. I was all agog. Oh my goodness, Valerio Borghese involved in the JFK murder? The father of someone I actually know? Surely not. And then when I realised the murder was fake I'm like what the hell? Why is there an Italian propaganda film on this? Why would intelligence agencies put money into this? Haven't they got better things to do?
You cannot get away from the propaganda. I watch a YouTube channel, Soft White Underbelly, run by a photographer who interviews people generally who live on the margins. I was thinking to myself, "Get away from the psyop stuff for awhile and watch something on SWU," so I see that there's a guy who was kidnapped by the Taliban and thought it looked interesting so I started watching it. The guy mentions Osama bin Laden and a little red flag went up and then he says that he just happened to go downtown in NYC on 9/11 and I'm like, WTF? Why is an agent giving a bogus story on this channel? F off!
I read a bit of your post, about the molten metal, the flashlight photo was a joke yes. What about the golden metal dribbling down the side of the WTC before fall? It's possible some nano-thermite was in the Mix? That Danish guy Neils Harritt had a paper with chemical analysis, seems to think so. And the NASA satellite images of a very hot ground 0 for 3 months wasn't fake?
I feel quite sure that Niels Harrit is controlled opposition although I don't exactly have proof but we know that 9/11 is absolutely infested with it so chances are. I'd say they could fake NASA images - all they have to do is change the colour coding I guess rather than totally fake it.
The thing is that the only thing that's really important is that their destructions were controlled so we can see the fact that there are all these different theories for how they came down can easily correspond to propaganda designed to consume people and fragment them. I could never really understand why people were so concerned with what technology brought them down. It doesn't matter. CD is all we need and we KNOW it had to be CD as you say cos the planes were faked.
Another thing I don't understand is how everyone goes on about Israel being responsible. Yeah, sure Israel was involved but they couldn't have been responsible for 9/11, obviously the US govt needed to authorise it and how much could Israel have to do with faking the planes? God it's easy to press people's buttons.
Yeah, I mean it's always about multiple propaganda streams to distract (in multiple ways), confuse and fragment the opposition, in short, to undermine it.
Ok that makes sense, but still they COULD use a technology that they actually employed in the psy-op as one of the propaganda streams, no? That wouldn't change their propaganda objectives. To me, the value for us knowing how something was done leads one to the be open to other aspects. It's much easier to go from CD to no planes because your mind is open. If you think it was a natural fall, I think you will not easily open your mind to no planes. Just my guess about most people. The planners will buy some time for themselves in the multiple streams I admit.
Sure they could still use a technology that they used in the propaganda streams and I have a vague feeling of seeing that somewhere. I felt all the propaganda pushed about the various technologies felt just like that - propaganda - except the thermite/nanothermite which had the rationale of "not noisy" like explosives, however, my research has shown that you can only put thermite on top of things to destroy them - I cannot be certain that that is the case but the point is: why would these technologies never be used elsewhere as far as we know? They seemed to imply that thermite is used as a means of controlled demolition but I cannot find any other instances of it. I'm plumping for tried and true - I see no reason why they wouldn't just do the tried and true and WTC-7's implosion looks very standard.
Actually, just looked up the satellite images and I'd say simply faked, not changing of colour coding. When they show you something in mainstream sources then of course big red flag. If they're advertising hot spots then you know FAKE.
I don't know if it was faked but I think it's a real possibility because no one is really "elected" to the presidency and the Kennedys are definitely part of the cabal. Miles Mathis has a long paper in which he claims all of the Kennedy deaths were faked. Perhaps. (I'm aware some claim MM is a Limited Hangout but regardless he still reveals a lot of historical truth.)
I struck MM off a long time ago. For all his waffle and pretzel logic he doesn't actually bring any definitive proof of anything to the table. And yet people look to him like he's some kind of genius for looking up celebrity genealogy and making half-assed claims about belonging to the peerage. Any one of us can have such a history and not be aware of it. It doesn't shape who we are in the here and now.
It's possible MM is legit and he's a super-genius with savant research skills. His harshest online critic, Allan Weisbecker, accuses "MM" of being a Tavistock writing committee. If "MM" is fake, then my guess is the "MM" papers are written by one of the PTBs who knows the full truth and doesn't have to research anything- but merely has to decide how much truth to reveal.
Coming soon to a town near you - the DOD holographic projection system (updated Mark 2) for the great UFO reveal - followed by the long and eagerly awaited 2nd coming of the Messiah telling us to repent before the coming Rapture and Allah (blessed be his name) telling Muslims they must kill all the infidel. It's going to get very dangerous going to the car wash soon
Bain's "9/11 as Mass Ritual" (2012) and his 2019 "Black Jack" book both contend 911 was an occult mass ritual. In his 2019 book, Bain predicted another 911-like event on 12/21/2021 as part of an occult ritual to commemorate the 26,000 year precession of the Equinoxes (Great Cycle). He incorrectly predicted a nuke-event instead of the COVID ritual. Some believe the Great Cycle is part of a cyclic cataclysmic event.
I have been a proponent of the hologram planes from the get-go. We know the military has the tech to project holograms of the plane the projector is in, so as to confuse the enemy, and on 9/11, the military flight records had a military plane on the same course as the first one to be "hit" a tower. But it was like 1,000 feet offset (or whatever the distance is that the holograms can be projected - it's around that). And it showed no plane aimed for the tower itself.
So... I give a probability that the "planes" were manufactured about 99%.
Of course I would agree with you about EMFs/5g producing cold symptoms but nobody has found a corona virus -none of them (well no virus period), so 5g doesn't produce any actual virus.
Well yes 5g can oxidize your biology and cause oxygen to disassociate from hemoglobin and cause nano-tech to give you trouble, but Coronavirus, or any virus, which is defined as a replication competent intracellular parasite with a genome and protein coat has never been found, so using the word virus related to any proposed biologic object or process does not fit with the definition.
"This is the same strategy with Covid, the planes are the virus, neither exist and both of these non-exist truths must be guarded at all costs. The bldgs’ controlled demolition corresponds to the pandemic numbers and/or the bioweapon story. They are happy for us to argue about these issues forever."
Spot on to a degree ... yes the planes are more important than the buildings and WTC-7 especially is a propaganda decoy ... the planes are more important not only because their fakery immediately means the buildings came down by controlled demolition and any need to question what caused their destructions is immediately obviated by that clear fact but also because:
1. Planes keep the focus more on the ludicrous failure of defence while the buildings keep focus off that
2. It means the passenger deaths were faked and the fakery of the passenger deaths can more easily lead to the questioning of ALL the deaths
The most important element of the 9/11 story is the False Dilemma propaganda strategy. The propagandists anticipated the disbelievers of their nonsense story, of course, and they had a propaganda campaign all worked out for them. Very few truthers, however, really understand the False Dilemma propaganda strategy and even when you try to explain it they're resolutely anchored in their "the evil US government cold-bloodedly and callously murdered all those poor people in the buildings."
Generally, in response to my statement, "It was really just a big demolition job where the planes and death and injury were faked," I get the response, "Oh, they wouldn't care about the people," or "They would have killed the people for real because that was easier / for more emotional impact."
No, of course, they don't care about the people but just because they don't care about the people doesn't mean they killed them, they can always have other reasons not to kill them.
Easier to kill them as an argument? "Easier" doesn't come into psyops. They don't care how hard or difficult anything is to do in a psyop. Who's paying for it? The punters. They are not concerned about "easier", they are concerned about pulling off the psyop exactly the way it suits them whatever way that is.
For greater emotional impact? No, no, no, no, no. Propaganda is not about doing things for real for greater emotional impact, propaganda is about fakery, it's about pushing people's buttons but using fakery to do it which is probably very psychologically damaging ... and just what they want.
The irony is that while you can propagandise and coerce thousands upon thousands of health professionals to inject people with toxins that injure, maim and kill, you cannot propagandise and coerce demolition professionals to only partially evacuate buildings before destroying them, that's not a thing. Anyone who doesn't think there were a lot of demolition professionals involved in destroying over seven buildings at the World Trade Centre??? All the buildings were either completely destroyed or severely "damaged" on 9/11 - no doubt the "damaged" ones had a little help from the demolition professionals.
I know someone who was in the vicinity of the WTC on 9/11 and he said he saw a plane heading to the South tower although he didn't see it penetrate so perhaps what he saw was a hologram but the most important fact about the planes is that none of the alleged passenger airliners crashed which means none of the alleged passengers died in a plane crash. That's the most important element. Whether it was holograms, military aircraft, some other kind of aeronautical object - whatever - all distraction propaganda. All that matters is that it wasn't the nominated passenger airliners so no one died in a plane crash. Sure, I wouldn't mind knowing what they used to create the planes for the people who were there (something different from what we're shown on film I think) but it's really not of crucial importance.
My post here explains 9/11 in a nutshell. If you're already on board with it being an inside job you can skip the 15 points from David Ray Griffin and go from there.
https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/both-believers-and-disbelievers-of
Hi Petra, your comment here is amazing! Can I put this short part in the body of the post and link your comment here to the quote?
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The planes are more important not only because their fakery immediately means the buildings came down by controlled demolition and any need to question what caused their destructions is immediately obviated by that clear fact but also because:
1. Planes keep the focus more on the ludicrous failure of defense while the buildings keep focus off that.
2. It means the passenger deaths were faked and the fakery of the passenger deaths can more easily lead to the questioning of ALL the deaths.
The most important fact about the planes is that none of the alleged passengers died in a plane crash. Very few truthers, really understand the False Dilemma propaganda strategy and even when you try to explain it they're resolutely anchored in their "the evil US government cold-bloodedly and callously murdered all those poor people in the buildings." Propaganda is about pushing people's buttons but using fakery to do it.
Of course, PM. I'm so chuffed you get it. I put up a post a few years ago about how WTC-7 was a propaganda decoy and got zero response. I mean ZERO and I'm like, "Come on, this is an interesting point." No one responded.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/why-collapse-wtc-7-by-perfect-implosion.html
If you don't get around to reading it just watch this video about WTC-7 made to Tom Petty's Free Fallin'. It's truly a work of propagandist art and It's FANTASTIC in the way you can tell it's the perps themselves who've made it and they're laughing their heads off at how they TELL us it's CD.
https://youtu.be/Vgx8Uwo-Vxc
Its in the post now much thanks for your help!
I just posted your stack on my page, PM, hope it goes in there too. Or maybe I should post it again? thanks Petra...excellent research.
I saw that and much thanks. I think you wrote...and Lahina but I think you meant Covid.
Unfortunately I've also been tormented with Lahaina but don't have the info or guts to write about it yet. My circle is still into the natural wildfire cause...
Yes, absolutely you should...Great points, Petra...!
What happened to those passengers? I had a client whose husband was on the flight that “crashed” in Pennsylvania. There’s no doubt that he didn’t return home. 🤔
Yes me too, a brother of someone. No one knows but choices: They agreed to be agents of a special mission or were agents from before, got on a plane that landed in Ohio got off and made the "phone calls" from the ground. They they were given new identities and maybe plastic surgery (see the top link section about the callers-one who seemed to have actually done this), or they were "put to sleep" or otherwise disposed of. I think the former for most. That plane was said by radar to have gone on and landed at a military base in VA. But no, they are not in that fake crash hole of dirt.
Yeah, that's hilarious. Have you seen Hoodwinked at Shanksville? Absolutely love it! People in the comments complain about the background music, something I normally don't like myself but in this video I think it suits it perfectly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2_em8G6DJE
Urban Dictionary: Get shanked
getting stabbed /owned. Usually yelled in a violent manner. Can be assoiciated with almost anything related to or in associated with hitting or wacking . (no homo) GET SHANKED MOFO dude chill out
That's what I'd like to know. I know a ridiculously large number of people considering the seeming unlikelihood who know people or know people who know people involved in these events ... but they're no wiser than the rest of us.
The only psyops where I've seen the people afterwards are Sandy Hook where there are images of the children older (the images of the children at the time of Sandy Hook are old images of them a few years younger than they were at the time) and the totally classic Challenger Disaster where all the people are either supposedly a twin of the person who died, have exactly the same name or have a very slightly different name. It's phenomenal but even though the people mostly simply keep their actual name when you tell people it was a psyop and the people are the same they refute it!
https://fakeotube.com/video/3665/nasa-challenger-crew-alive
This "passenger's" brother says his brother has never been found or seen since-he even bought into most of the official narrative. I also have a relative escaped one of the towers, he worked there many years, still alive now. Not really sure what he thinks of 9.11.
I've exchanged comments with someone who knows a person who escaped the towers too and they're adamant that the deaths were real simply because they know this person but the staged hypothesis accommodates genuine evacuation - not only accommodates it but expects it.
Right the fake plane crash and bldgs fall is enough for the psyop.
Yep...I'm "onboard" with you, so to speak...pun intended...there are few actual/natural accidents anymore...very few.
I didn't read your comment properly the first time and thought you said it was your client on the flight rather than client's husband. I'm not very good at interpreting emojis but does yours suggest that perhaps he might have had another woman somewhere else?
I think they have loads of agents with their ears to the ground looking for people who have motives to "disappear" - some might wish to leave their spouses, some might have oppressive families they wish to get away from. some might want to move to a different country, some might have terminal illnesses and are going to die anyway and, of course, some might just want the money. I wonder how long the list is of motives to participate in these events? What happened to Barbara Olson I wonder, for some reason she really intrigues me.
Tom Olson married a women who looks like Barbara with plastic surg, there's your answer, see the link at the top of the post and do in page search.
holy shit...
In this page
https://911planeshoax.com/2020/09/11/proof-that-no-real-planes-were-used-on-911/
I don’t really know I hadn’t really thought about it that way. But in this case they lived in California and she was pregnant with their first child and she was supposed to go to a wedding in New York according to her with her husband and they got in a fight so she stayed behind. Plus she was pregnant and he went And then she never heard from him again. She moved back to Michigan because that was where her family was, and I was at her house, and she had received a huge settlement. She lived in an expensive house in an expensive neighborhood, and her son had never met his father , so good question and the emoji by the way is a Hmmmmmm? I wonder…
I meant to reply earlier but didn't. OK, so it seems as though you only knew her in Michigan not back when she was in California? To me it it sounds less like the husband abandoned her and more like the "fight" was a concocted story and perhaps she'd gotten pregnant to someone or perhaps even by donor egg and agreed to marry this guy in order to get the payoff or something like that perhaps. Or perhaps it really was abandonment - the guy wanted to opt out and he engineered the fight so she didn't go. Very intriguing. Perhaps again there was no husband at all and the guy was completely made up. Do you know what his name was?
No, I didn’t know his name. I also can’t recall hers because it was a long time ago now that she was my client. I barely knew her; I designed her landscape at her house in about 2006.
Do an in-page search (Ctrl-F) here for Kay Bratcher, you'll see Barbara Olson.
https://911planeshoax.com/2020/09/11/proof-that-no-real-planes-were-used-on-911/
Thanks, Cynthia.
Yes, me too......it was strange to consider Barbara Olsen. I liked her commentary. I remember her husband on some show talking about her. Hmmm...
If you view the whole event of 9/11 as a Hollywood production with scriptwriters, managers, special effects operators, and crisis actors hitting their marks perfectly on the day then you also have to accept that if anything went wrong it would blow the whole operation wide open and all the perps would immediately rat on all their buddies and the public would know exactly who to go after for payback.
Just saying.
And whichever way you view Lucky Larry's involvement in the whole affair, it certainly should be front and center in these discussions. His family not in the buildings that day as well as many other prominent friends and associates.
Then you have to judge whether the insurance claims and the need to demolish the asbestos laden buildings "carefully by hand" provides enough motivation to set up the "Hollywood production" and bring the buildings down "some other way" with a little help from Larry's friends.
We also know that the Pentagon had plans to invade Iraq and Afghanistan followed by other countries in the ME. They just needed the right crisis to magically appear. A new Pearl Harbor no less.
That said, there are still many 9/11 Truth talking points that make absolutely zero sense and have not been satisfactorily settled since the whole thing kicked off.
https://www.tsubion.com/9-11-truth-is-full-of-lies/
Good points. My guess is that the mix of compartmentalization of tasks and use of tried and proven absolute cult followers born and bred into the fold (Masons, Jesuits, etc), along with an observant enforcement arm could keep the machine in order. For Covid which is also a complex enterprise most members follow their roles. Occasionally a member is either taken out of position or even worse we may never know, but this has not derailed the blob.
On what happened, there can only be one real truth. What is true is that an army of confusion agents and fake truth leaders have been sent out to the public to confuse us around and around, and also an army of 9.11 death squads, hit men, bribe men, and etc. to keep things under control. The cover up and damage control ghoules have been legend, usually they keep a few steps ahead of the real truthers, same as now in Covid. That's why I repeat that we are talking to ourselves ensconced in our little area of the universe with only so much influence on the public.
I agree we're being messed with from all angles. Sometimes I feel like Neo in the Matrix when he can't handle what Morpheus is showing him and just wants to puke!
"And whichever way you view Lucky Larry's involvement in the whole affair, it certainly should be front and center in these discussions. His family not in the buildings that day as well as many other prominent friends and associates."
Think about it. Who told us he wasn't there? Do you really think he breakfasted at Windows on the World every single morning but then just that very one day he didn't? No. This is propaganda targeted at the anticipated truthers, they want to encourage our feeling of "the evil US government cold-bloodedly and callously killing all those poor people." We don't need deaths at the WTC to know they're evil - look at now - but they didn't kill people (or at least not that we can see for sure) on 9/11 because on 9/11 it didn't suit them. On the contrary, what suited them so much better was to create a very-very-very-difficult-belief-for-the-normies-to-take-on - that they very evilly did kill the people. Of course, for normies they can't even take on the notion of Sandy Hook where those who refute the story say no child was killed so imagine them taking on 9/11 where the refuters are saying the US government killed those poor people? They will not believe it.
I get "why would they want to kill their own people?" all the time.
Sorry I'm a little lost in the discussion as I'm rushing to go out. What I mean is many people, mostly normies, will not be able to accept the govt intentionally killing their own people and that stops them from seeing 9.11, and Covid, as intentional ops.
Yes, but they DIDN'T kill people on 9/11 while they are killing them now. You're onboard with the staging of death and injury on 9/11 right?
Yes I am, this is just WHAT PEOPLE SAY if I say it was intentional, CD etc
If I was to tell people that no one died that will result in a black eye.
LOL. Yeah, I know you cannot win, you cannot win. Truthers are offended if you tell them they didn't kill anyone too though!
So are you saying that the propaganda to the truthers reinforcing the lie of real killing has worked very well because those who believe the terrorist story cannot understand why they would kill their own people and they can't get past it? In fact, on this occasion, yes they wouldn't kill their own people but obviously now they're going all out.
This is a great quote from Gerard Holmgren.
"The official story required either that one descended into total intellectual senility in order to still believe it – perhaps deliberately made ridiculous for that very purpose – or else that one keep one's intellect alive but destroy almost everything that one had previously believed about how society works." – 9/11 researcher, Gerard Holmgren, A Theory
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/gerard-holmgren.html
Yes, I understand where you're coming from. We witnessed much of this tomfoolery in Syria with the White Hats and gas attacks and crisis actors, performance artists etc getting up after the "shoot" and dusting off the special effects makeup.
But surely in the case of 9/11 we can investigate the death records of people that supposedly died that day and in the following weeks and months due to toxic dust inhalation. Family members, friends, fellow workers can be contacted. This is more than 3000 New Yorkers we're talking about here, not the crew of the Space Shuttle https://www.buymeacoffee.com/Eluminate/alive-well-1986-challenger-crew or some foreigners in a far off land. A tad more difficult to fake that many deaths wouldn't you say?
But I get your drift... and yes, I've watched Wag the Dog and read material on psyops for years, it's just that sometimes you gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette and the people running things obviously have zero problem doing that when required. They fund and manage both sides of all serious conflict with millions of deaths as a result. To say that a few of them may be faked to get the ball rolling matters not one bit at the end of the story.
This fits well with the Hollywood idea: this https://fakeotube.com/v/31
It's possible we were both wrong after all. There is some annoying music, not sure what's wrong with these people, oh well that's not their strong point.
Yeah but...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82280
https://www.youtube.com/@RKOwens4
Thanks for the info! It will take a long while to get thru that. From my 20,000 foot view I can only say that 9.11 is like Covid, Enterprise fraud. Nothing can be left to chance. This means the no virus and attack by "PCR, Masks, hosp protocols, later shots" is no risk vs than some "thing" they can't control, and no planes and attack by "pre-planted bombs and media blitz & fakes" is no risk vs planes missing targets, having to deal with lots of families of deceased or military planes found crashed, etc. Just a very small perturbation could cause a plane to miss targets.
Agreed. I can see the parallels between 9/11 and Convid and probably many other prominent psyops and based on my response to Convid in particular I'm happy to correct my position on details to do with 9/11 if the evidence takes me that way, but I've found that the wilder the theories the harder they are to prove. Sometimes the simplest explanation (the most boring one) is the correct one.
ok really appreciate your comment and that you read my posts. See you!
It took me a looooog time to come round to the planes not actually existing at all. Not that i was studying it like crazy or anything, it was just too much to comprehend without having the evidence broken down. But now there is absolutlely no doubt about it. Zero planes crashed that day.
Have you watched the videos of the twin towers with very clear airplane shaped holes in the sides of the buildings before they fell?
Were they put there by "artists" using shaped charges? Isn't it easier just to fly a plane into the building?
If a plane didn't hit the Pentagon then what exactly knocked down the lamp posts a plane wingspan's width apart along the final flight path? No missile or drone has that wingspan.
See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XnGk9fz8gM
from 2:40 that should clear it up.
On the penta, we can make many guesses or debates, the problem is they took all the camera footage. If there was a plane they should be happy to show us.
Were the posts cut ahead of time? No hologram it seems, if there was they would show it. Failed Hologram maybe? Explosion from inside the bldg is likely just like the WTC as in the vid above. Then again the footage would clear it all up. Since no footage their covering up something....No plane inside the penta, "it dissolved" is just like Shanksville BS.
Terrible video with worse music!
If this is what we're still using to know what happened on that day... then I give up. People have no ability to discern the difference between scientifically validated information and attempts to gaslight the public with wild theories.
Yes, they held back camera footage at the Pentagon. They are the most powerful military in the world and IMO probably ran the whole operation that day with a little help from their friends in other countries.
People running out to the lamp posts to cut them down either before or after the impact would be observed by bystanders. It doesn't make any sense.
By far the simplest explanation is that planes were flown into the buildings and in IMO they were operated remotely by expert military pilots.
If that is wrong, then I need a lot more proof than some videos making hologram claims.
They found the flight recorders for these planes and the info matches what we saw on the day. Again, you would have to disprove all of these pieces of evidence before entertaining wild fantasies like holograms and DEWs. They are not required at all for 9/11 to unfold the way it did. Structural damage, column weakness, and pancake collapse are very well understood and explain everything that happened in the twin towers and building seven suffered severe structural damage and weaknesses just like the main towers. The silly claims there are completely wrong too.
I understand what you wish to say. For me, the explanation in this write up and the vids inside have given me the most logical explanation
https://911planeshoax.com/2020/09/11/proof-that-no-real-planes-were-used-on-911/ (this isn't the vid with the bad music)
It takes at least 2 hrs to give justice to the text and each video in it.
To me, if it's ok to give just my opinion, this explains best why plane wings didn't fall on the street, why people can stand at the window gash with a hot plane on the floor, and even with military controllers, the risk of missing target is too great, esp, Penta with ground effect. Personally I think each of 4 "planes" did things that violate many laws of physics and operational logic. I ditto Rob below on the "disaster artist" moniker.
Anyway, aside from the "divisive details", we all agree 1. smoke and mirrors were used for a false-flag attack, 2. propaganda and straight out lying and cover up was intense, 3. the main goal was the ME war, and 4. 19 rag-tag disco swanking ME guys did not fly passenger planes into the said targets (nor any plane into any target). 5. Yes the music in the 15 min vid was not the right choice!
I agree 100% with your five points. Especially the last one!
I think it's also fair to say that these people are disaster artists and have capabilites and technology way beyond anything that we are aware of.
I have watched the vids with the plane shaped holes and, i'll be honest, it does leave more questions than answers. All I can say is that are anomolies on both sides of the argument and I don't have all the answers. But I do know that the nosecone of the plane would not make it all the way through and then vanish into thin air. Like I said, it took me a very long time to see enough evidence that swayed me towards "no planes".
See this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XnGk9fz8gM
from 2:40 that should clear it up.
I believe what looks like the nosecone is just a pyroclastic cloud being pushed out the other side of the building.
Or a CG mistake?
Well... there are several videos from different angles... and many eye witnesses for the second plane... so they can be the judge.
Eye witnesses are subjective and can be faked. I'm not saying wrong, but direct analysis is better. See this short vid
https://fakeotube.com/video/36/september-clues---nosed-out
I'm not saying you have to agree. What we can say is that 9.11 was an onion of fakery on many levels. Regardless of this, personally, I dont think a real jet nose can get thru the steel and concrete on the in and on the out, not to mention the core....then what happened to the wing? Broke off on entry and is inside? Explaining these images as real is a daunting task of acrobatics compared with a projection or CG.
True...but we are the ones who want to know...everything...or as much as we possibly can... Small, though our cadre may be, it's still a force. and remember, low-profile is a good thing. Too much exposure gets you targeted and gang stalked...
Great post, keep rockin' Proton.
As with all CGI and holographics, reference points (orbs) are needed for mapping, plotting and synchronization purposes.
Very likely the "orbs" are real drones in the area, that create the 3D points/origins for mapping spatial terrain enabling for a realistic projection in that space.
I've actually seen a DC 10 hologram fly 100 m past without any turbulence or appropriate sound.
It was visually real, in every visual sense.
The fact it did impossible maneuvers , without air displacement and relative sound artifacts and levels, I would have never of known.
If it is physically impossible for planes at that speed to hit a target, then there were no planes.Period.
If it is impossible physics for such a structure to freefall the way it did, then there were no structural integrity (or structure) when it fell.Period.
Deduction is simple and requires very little facts or technical stuff, to solve problems.
If it's impossible, then either 2 explanations are correct.
1) technology and methods that are deemed impossible , actually exist and were utilized on the day, by experts in the field.
2) the buildings did not fall, and it still exists, and it is a TV trick.
Since many have gone to the big apple and seen the towers gone, then only point 1 can be the truth.
Orbs maybe static "alternative phase spaces" surrounding Arial vehicles to dampen inertia by "gravity".
A bit like the electromagnetic fields generated by a "spinning top" defying "gravity".
Gravity is actually only buoyancy in thinly dispersed water aka "air" (atmosphere). Atmos - sphere.
Dry the air, around the craft, it becomes lightweight.
Just like all the aeroplanes conning us all for years ....
Bubbles and monkeys.
Nothing else.
Cheers.
Good explanation thanks Mick!
Wow! I just thought of something. Isn't it funny how you can study something for years and think you've pretty much got it (which you may well have ... or not) and then some little thing occurs to you and you wonder why neither you nor anyone else ever thought of it ... at least as far as you know.
Flights aren't referred to as Flight + No, they're referred to as Airline Code + No, and yet so very often all of the alleged 9/11 flights are simply referred to as Flight + No. It just occurred to me when I was checking that "Flight 175" was UA. I mean I knew it was but just checking. While Flight 11 is referred to as AA11 reasonably often Flight 175 is virtually never referred to as UA175 ... that's just one of their many, many ways of "revealing" the truth under all that magic propaganda dust.
Its always good to come back at this after a hiatus. I did 9.11 INTENSELY in 2019. Now coming back with fresh and open mind because it was sooo onioned. I added a section in the post on the CG guy. Just a few paragraphs, he's really great.
X-cellent post...and thank you for the props. So amazing to connect these dots - great comparisons.
Not much happens by accident. And that's been the case for eons.
And the head fakes are coming to a head, with the DEW reveals in Maui...many more are waking up to the horrors as they are scrambling to cover it up, evidently erecting fencing to keep everyone out now.
Thx again, great stack!
Thanks here too!!
Engage, think, share, and create the truth together. This is how we can walk a mile together from the small steps each one of us makes alone.
I'm now gonna link this to the post. 15 min, highly recommend it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XnGk9fz8gM
Oh and anything on my SS is free to steal and create for yourself anytime!
This link also has some interesting info about 911 fakery. It also says that some COVID vax victims are crisis actors:
https://dpl003.substack.com/p/discussing-the-gatekeepers-others
Uh, pulling 9/11 as an example, even metphorically, will usually cause a sh*tstorm ... at least in my experience ;-O
Though IMHO the Wiley-Coyote-physics purported in the 9/11 comission report is living proof that government and media were totally corrupted at least 20 years ago.
With GW's private part standing up on the lawn pointing to you know what, I think the corruption was much more than 20 years ago.
Here though 9.11 is more than an example, it's connected to the UFO fakery of flying objects and the propaganda value of, and need to hide, the truth about non-existent fake objects.
It might as well be Nimrod's private part- and that's no exaggeration.
Great work!
Oh, the NimROD-GW blood line!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/S7LvBF72yYCrkGxGA
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EysYQ1fVYSHSrWcB7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/xnfSPkGz3xDZr8fr6
Yes, it's all about the blood lineage.
Off-topic but I just had to share and hope you don't mind, PM. So while 9/11 was a staged event apart from the buildings so was JFK's. I've looked at various aspects of the fakery for awhile now but just yesterday it occurred to me to look at how John Connally was injured. I interrogated ChatGPT and this was returned:
"John Connally, the Texas Governor who was seated in front of President John F. Kennedy in the same car during the assassination, was hit by a bullet during the event. The bullet that hit Connally is believed to be the same one that also struck Kennedy.
According to the official investigation by the Warren Commission, the single bullet that hit both Kennedy and Connally is known as the "magic bullet." This bullet entered Kennedy's upper back, exited through his throat, and then went on to strike Connally, causing multiple injuries. It entered Connally's back, shattered a rib, exited his chest, struck his wrist, and finally embedded itself in his thigh.
The trajectory of the bullet and the injuries sustained by Connally were the subject of much analysis and debate, as they were central to the Warren Commission's conclusion about the sequence of events during the assassination."
Hilarious, no? I cannot believe I didn't look at John Connally before. I vaguely knew about the "magic" bullet but just thought it was about it changing direction, I didn't realise it was supposedly the bullet that went through both of them and I vaguely thought that Connally's ear was clipped or something.
Now no one believes the bullet did what was said to John Connally so are we to believe that he was in on JFK's murder? No, we are not. JFK wasn't assassinated. Why his assassination was staged and where he went don't ask me ... and then there's his brother and his son. All mysteries. One explanation that comes to mind is that JFK, RFK and Marilyn set up a menage a trois but I know that's ridiculous.
https://occamsrazorterrorevents.weebly.com/jfk---fake-assassination.html
This is very interesting. About JFK we'd have to have some explanation of the piece of head falling off on the car, I think it was witnessed (well any agent can be a witness) and both the orig and shimmied Zapruder film showed it. I can only think that JFK had he head shaved at that area and a bilayer prop was put in, bottom layer glued to his real scalp looking like skull blown out, and top layer that with the pull of a string fell off. That would be a bit of an acrobatic to pull off (no pun intended). I can see the propaganda value of shocking the public who would then be too numb to stop Viet Nam. Maybe other reasons. Was JFK really that stupid to ride an open car? Jackie didn't look very upset at Lyndon Blow Job's swearing in. If I was her I would have wanted to be alone and not have attended it.
RFK, would have also required serious props. Was RFK really that stupid to speak in public like that?
No Jackie's behaviour all along doesn't suggest someone undergoing the alleged event - I mean I know their marriage wasn't supposed to be the greatest but even so.
Zapruder was an agent and that film was obviously doctored ... I don't know how they managed the doctoring but there are a number of angles supporting fakery and nothing that clearly says real. Where on earth would the bullets have come from? They clearly didn't come from where they said they came from. The first thing to wake me up to 9/11 and JFK and all the rest of it was the film, JFK to 9/11 Everything is a Rich Man's Trick, in which the filmmaker posits the theory that the bullets came from a drain hole at the side of the road. It seemed plausible at the time but ... anyway too many angles supporting fakery and nothing convincing saying real.
So much propaganda pushed out about JFK just like 9/11. I came across an Italian film about various Italian people supposedly involved in the murder including the father of someone who'd emigrated to Australia and whose family was friends with my family. I was all agog. Oh my goodness, Valerio Borghese involved in the JFK murder? The father of someone I actually know? Surely not. And then when I realised the murder was fake I'm like what the hell? Why is there an Italian propaganda film on this? Why would intelligence agencies put money into this? Haven't they got better things to do?
You cannot get away from the propaganda. I watch a YouTube channel, Soft White Underbelly, run by a photographer who interviews people generally who live on the margins. I was thinking to myself, "Get away from the psyop stuff for awhile and watch something on SWU," so I see that there's a guy who was kidnapped by the Taliban and thought it looked interesting so I started watching it. The guy mentions Osama bin Laden and a little red flag went up and then he says that he just happened to go downtown in NYC on 9/11 and I'm like, WTF? Why is an agent giving a bogus story on this channel? F off!
I read a bit of your post, about the molten metal, the flashlight photo was a joke yes. What about the golden metal dribbling down the side of the WTC before fall? It's possible some nano-thermite was in the Mix? That Danish guy Neils Harritt had a paper with chemical analysis, seems to think so. And the NASA satellite images of a very hot ground 0 for 3 months wasn't fake?
I feel quite sure that Niels Harrit is controlled opposition although I don't exactly have proof but we know that 9/11 is absolutely infested with it so chances are. I'd say they could fake NASA images - all they have to do is change the colour coding I guess rather than totally fake it.
The thing is that the only thing that's really important is that their destructions were controlled so we can see the fact that there are all these different theories for how they came down can easily correspond to propaganda designed to consume people and fragment them. I could never really understand why people were so concerned with what technology brought them down. It doesn't matter. CD is all we need and we KNOW it had to be CD as you say cos the planes were faked.
Another thing I don't understand is how everyone goes on about Israel being responsible. Yeah, sure Israel was involved but they couldn't have been responsible for 9/11, obviously the US govt needed to authorise it and how much could Israel have to do with faking the planes? God it's easy to press people's buttons.
Is the propaganda value of thermite to mainly keep the CD argument going and distract from the no planes etc.?
Yeah, I mean it's always about multiple propaganda streams to distract (in multiple ways), confuse and fragment the opposition, in short, to undermine it.
Ok that makes sense, but still they COULD use a technology that they actually employed in the psy-op as one of the propaganda streams, no? That wouldn't change their propaganda objectives. To me, the value for us knowing how something was done leads one to the be open to other aspects. It's much easier to go from CD to no planes because your mind is open. If you think it was a natural fall, I think you will not easily open your mind to no planes. Just my guess about most people. The planners will buy some time for themselves in the multiple streams I admit.
Sure they could still use a technology that they used in the propaganda streams and I have a vague feeling of seeing that somewhere. I felt all the propaganda pushed about the various technologies felt just like that - propaganda - except the thermite/nanothermite which had the rationale of "not noisy" like explosives, however, my research has shown that you can only put thermite on top of things to destroy them - I cannot be certain that that is the case but the point is: why would these technologies never be used elsewhere as far as we know? They seemed to imply that thermite is used as a means of controlled demolition but I cannot find any other instances of it. I'm plumping for tried and true - I see no reason why they wouldn't just do the tried and true and WTC-7's implosion looks very standard.
Actually, just looked up the satellite images and I'd say simply faked, not changing of colour coding. When they show you something in mainstream sources then of course big red flag. If they're advertising hot spots then you know FAKE.
https://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2001/ofr-01-0429/thermal.r09.html
After all I have witnessed in this world, I too am of the opinion that JFK was a faked death.
I don't know if it was faked but I think it's a real possibility because no one is really "elected" to the presidency and the Kennedys are definitely part of the cabal. Miles Mathis has a long paper in which he claims all of the Kennedy deaths were faked. Perhaps. (I'm aware some claim MM is a Limited Hangout but regardless he still reveals a lot of historical truth.)
http://mileswmathis.com/barindex2.pdf
http://mileswmathis.com/jfkgay.pdf
I struck MM off a long time ago. For all his waffle and pretzel logic he doesn't actually bring any definitive proof of anything to the table. And yet people look to him like he's some kind of genius for looking up celebrity genealogy and making half-assed claims about belonging to the peerage. Any one of us can have such a history and not be aware of it. It doesn't shape who we are in the here and now.
It's possible MM is legit and he's a super-genius with savant research skills. His harshest online critic, Allan Weisbecker, accuses "MM" of being a Tavistock writing committee. If "MM" is fake, then my guess is the "MM" papers are written by one of the PTBs who knows the full truth and doesn't have to research anything- but merely has to decide how much truth to reveal.
I can buy that for a dollar. Either way I don't pay any attention to it. And I used to way too much.
Coming soon to a town near you - the DOD holographic projection system (updated Mark 2) for the great UFO reveal - followed by the long and eagerly awaited 2nd coming of the Messiah telling us to repent before the coming Rapture and Allah (blessed be his name) telling Muslims they must kill all the infidel. It's going to get very dangerous going to the car wash soon
Bain's "9/11 as Mass Ritual" (2012) and his 2019 "Black Jack" book both contend 911 was an occult mass ritual. In his 2019 book, Bain predicted another 911-like event on 12/21/2021 as part of an occult ritual to commemorate the 26,000 year precession of the Equinoxes (Great Cycle). He incorrectly predicted a nuke-event instead of the COVID ritual. Some believe the Great Cycle is part of a cyclic cataclysmic event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ZDcj0kF_0
I have been a proponent of the hologram planes from the get-go. We know the military has the tech to project holograms of the plane the projector is in, so as to confuse the enemy, and on 9/11, the military flight records had a military plane on the same course as the first one to be "hit" a tower. But it was like 1,000 feet offset (or whatever the distance is that the holograms can be projected - it's around that). And it showed no plane aimed for the tower itself.
So... I give a probability that the "planes" were manufactured about 99%.
You might like this...from Sage's post...
the 911 Op was always intended to pivot to Biowarfare...
great vid to chekc out...bite-me Biden speaking Sept 10, 2001
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/the-911-operation-was-always-intended?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Thanks & dont mind my comment about Lahaina, I'm now falling asleep and cant read or type straight. See you later.
"Nibirushock" dropped a series of 911 plane "projection" videos many years ago - here's part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XnGk9fz8gM
Oops - my bad - this is the same video linked in your post. Sorry about that!
UFO's...always a blob and indistinct.
Of course I would agree with you about EMFs/5g producing cold symptoms but nobody has found a corona virus -none of them (well no virus period), so 5g doesn't produce any actual virus.
Well yes 5g can oxidize your biology and cause oxygen to disassociate from hemoglobin and cause nano-tech to give you trouble, but Coronavirus, or any virus, which is defined as a replication competent intracellular parasite with a genome and protein coat has never been found, so using the word virus related to any proposed biologic object or process does not fit with the definition.