“Faster than a speeding virus” (and able to impersonate the symptoms of a virus), “Able to leap tall acrylic boards in a single bound”, Fighting for “untruths, injustice, and the Pharamaceutical Way!” IT’S SUPERCHEM!!: Sorry I’m getting carried away with my youthful fantasy of being a deadly chemical in flight. Read on you will understand who SuperChem really is.
stimulated a maelstrom of acerbic comments and as they grew it became clear this was an intentional attack using the, "Discredit by Making a Cesspool Strategy".
As a counter strategy I decided to :
1. Let the comments stand to show the attack was happening and their content.
2. Make this sibling post focusing on the specific issue brought up in that post of a chemical mimicking "Sars virus" symptoms.
3. Have a hard rule of "NET ZERO" insults and foul language on this new post.
4. Include an analysis of the attack and the background thereof as you have read in this post.
Letting you know just to be transparent to readers on the bigger picture behind this post.
"3. Have a hard rule of "NET ZERO"...and foul language on this new post."--You're killing us, with laughter--after your black hole post--foul language? and your other most recent posts except this one flow like that, and contribute little--just random references and suggestions--to those of us outside the immediate loop of where you're going with it all. After telling us how bad Martin is, you leave us to sift through his long video ourselves to find out what the heck you are talking about--after--after sucking our Martin-viewing energy all the way out of us by telling us he's really, really terrible.
Tom, generally I want to the comments to be organic and flow freely as I am a fan of free speech (except for a few situations), the Black Hole I could see was getting attacked (the make a cesspool tactic-a type of censuring) and I made an intentional plan to do this sibling post because I wanted to leave the foul language in Black Hole.. as a proof of the attack, and this post as a proof of some illogical pseudo science. That's why I copied the science opinion part into this post as the other had a different anti-propaganda strategy. The only prior post with lots of foul language was "Isolated Terrain", that was also attacked by Broze and I wanted to leave proof of that attack. I decided not to make a no-attack sibling out of that one (as yet).
Out of 55 or so posts there are only these 2 (Isolated and Black Hole) with the cesspool attack going on, each by only 1 person making nearly 100 comments each making a cesspool of and watering down the comment section. These are standard propaganda attack tactics. If you don't realize who is behind this well, sorry this comment isn't the right place to go into it, but the actual persons/accounts writing the attack are not what is behind the attack, and if you do not agree with my anti-censuring strategy, that's also ok. If you're friendly I'm happy to get advice, if not well please find a better SS. This is a free SS and I am only a volunteer writer, better yet, why don't you take the vid and make your own SS? You can put a link in the comments and show us how it should be done.
If you think that the other 53 posts are foul besides the satire in the post itself I can only suggest you don't read this SS anymore. On Martin, I mainly wanted to spread the video that Zeck made and I included the post by Omar Jordan. The vid is 40 min at 2x speed, you can watch just part of it, you can read just part of Omar's post, or you can ditch my post and move on. I certainly do not want to force you to go thru any of it. You can see with 62 likes it was an immensely interesting video for many viewers, but hey different strokes for different folks. Take care.
Actually, I hadn't read the comments section on that one, because I watched it a few weeks ago when that whole comments thread wasn't there. So I just meant your post title about sitting on the toilet--and then you say you don't want foul language in your next post... Just a small comment here, don't make too much of it.
As for the next thing I said: some comments I had gotten a year ago from you were so detailed, as was this post, but the Substack on Martin avoided explicitly stating anything at all (as does--37 min. mark, still--Martin) so I was just surprised. But just forget it, my comment--your on the right track, keep up the good work.
And not sure about the "year ago". The PM News started 9 months ago and I dont reacall "so detailed comments". But maybe there were, and I dont mind if you call me out on things that are specific and we can read together, I have often changed text in posts because of good advice. Take it easy.
A thread starting March 29 of this year, on another person's Substack, I think. Somewhere you and [Someone and] Donny joined the thread and it was all really detailed, compared to what one usually can easily find.
Ok thanks. Not sure which was sitting on the toilet, recently there was the airlines testing shit for Covid, and whether Fan Wu discoverer of Sars 2 pooped then flushed, too many lately even I get confused. But yes. the toilet paper image was for what was coming out of DM's mouth, in satire of course. Take care.
"To me, mentioning chemical poisoning without being clear that no virus has been found is leading the average person away from considering there is no virus to a focus on chemicals."
Agreed. Enviromental poisoning is the cause of all disease = food poisoning, water poisoning, air poisoning. I believe that when we get poisoned (poisons can be administered in trillion ways) we develop symptoms which are then thought to be caused by "viruses" and "pathogens".
Terrain theory is key! Teach it to as many poeple as possible!
Environment to me means everything that the body has to somehow process. So of course, vaccination is included. And there are a lot of poisonous/toxic substances in these vaccines, no?
CDC just put a name on what was known as a flu, right?
Check my stack on Microbiome/Ferments/Immune system/Aura if you are interested in these things.
" Enviromental poisoning is the cause of all disease = food poisoning, water poisoning, air poisoning. I believe that when we get poisoned (poisons can be administered in trillion ways) we develop symptoms which are then thought to be caused by "viruses" and "pathogens"." - and can you (SIRIUS or any casual onlooker) think of of any single cause of all mentioned?
Gram, apologies, but the envenomation theory doesn't flow well. there can't be venom in the water because neither kids nor animals get sick or die, and there's too much water, you would need impossible amount of venom to not be diluted nor break down on it's travel from the water works to your tummy. Not to mention venoms are peptides, they would just be digested in your tummy. You can even drink snake venom no worries.
Peters and Ardis are distracting from the fact that the real dangers are fake tests, shots and hospital protocols. They give out some good info and suck you into an info trap they set later, THEY ARE NOT your friends.
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I suspect that most that discuss the "causes" or more often it's a single cause that's attempted to be shown as the culprit, live in or around cities? I say this because over the last 3 years in our very rural area, (150 miles from a very large city, 60 from anything other than a very tiny rural town), we have had no more numbers of "sick" people than usual, although admittedly this is not an official number, if there ever exists such a thing. Yes, people became ill, but it was only rarely something that seemed more serious and I imagine that when it was it was a combination of the already instilled fear of what to expect, how "deadly" it would be, and so forth and so on. The deaths we had were, in each case, people that went to the hospital for the deadly protocols. Every. Single. One.
It was, plain and simple, murder. I followed the treatment and death of a 40 yr old co-worker of a local family member who went to the hospital. It was criminal. Medical malpractice. Murder.
We certainly live in a toxic environment. Our skies are sprayed often daily, with a few days reprieve now and then and an occasional entire week free. We have a few large corporate farming operations that use chemicals in massive amounts. We have 605 ft high wind turbines, (a health hazard of their own in numerous ways), and all the usual toxic foods, etc. Many have their own gardens, of course, as do I, butcher and consume their own meats, hunt, fish, and the like. Without a doubt these things cannot be totally toxin free, however. That said, if a single source of illness, or even multiple sources, were somehow specifically deployed country wide, or even globally, why would not there be countless illnesses in our rural areas? We have no 5G and probably never will. While I totally understand how the installation and activation of 5G towers/antennas would make people ill, and even die often suddenly, that is certainly not "the" cause for all areas. This lends one to conclude that as usual people get sick from a number of reasons or a culmination of inputs, and that includes fear, expectations, thoughts, beliefs, as well as physical toxicity. To me it's very clear that it was the treatments, (and probably the tests as well) that sealed the deal for those that died. For those that were ill but recovered it's no different than any other illness. Now, once the injections rolled out and people took those therein started a whole other method of poisoning and that should not be confused with the pre-vax period or with those that have never received one. As PM says, venom simply could not cause serious illness by ingestion, nor can many toxins, and the dispersal of anything via the water in anything other than small sources just isn't attainable.
The fact that 3 years later so many are trying to determine "the" cause is telling. There is no one cause for illness, but TPTB know that by using media in all forms they can get people to accept that as true, and also accept that the only solution is what they offer. I have a neighbor who says he was "sicker than I've ever been" and claims to have had CV and believes he still has lingering effects. Yet, where would he have gotten this? We are, as I said, very rural, only a few houses in this couple mile square area and then only one dotted here and there on the farms. Why weren't we all sick? None of the narratives make sense. Jon Rappoport does a good job of breaking down the single cause theory among other narratives. There's also the phenomenon of the Amish communities and other groups not becoming ill. This of course easily shows the contagion theory to be hard to swallow.
Common sense, logic, deduction, observation, and nature all show that this whole ordeal, like all of the others over the years, was in no way what it seemed and was simply a construct given to people that worked.
This! 👆🏼Jon Rappaport said it all along, that “IT” is not ONE THING! There are no viruses making people sick, lots of things make people sick, and people’s health isn’t all the same to begin with. Thank you for this post and for this comment!
Multiple vectors , by any means possible. I personally think Graphene Oxide is a major part (among others) GO can be aerosolized ( smaller than many viruses)
Coated with polyethylene glycol and sprayed onto food , PCR tests and inside of masks. Remember the masks in Canada that were found to have GO in them . ONE mother who was paying attention and masks were recalled. You know what bothers me no follow up from the 3 letter agencies , Canadian US etc.
Also the recent Chinese Biolab situation in Reedley Ca , so allegedly numerous pathogens in a closed down warehouse where PCR tests and pregnancy tests were made , why no picture of or description of these ‘tests’ so they can be avoided by the public….WTF also how many workers and 0 arrests… also one article mentions another warehouse in Fresno….. no follow up. I kid you not a couple articles wrote of the deplorable condition the mice were subjected to.
One level above the symptoms referred to it is not ONE THING fully agreed - but in the FINAL ANALYSIS it is! Till one does not arrive at the final bifurcation the "causes" - which are truly only symptoms themselves - are endless!
You have to be totally mentally asleep to be a covid lover. It's like believing in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.
Whenever you are sick, diseased or ill in some way, it is your body telling you that it is overburdened with toxins and under performing. There is no virus or disease to catch. The world is becoming a toxic cesspool and it is the human hating cowards creating it.
It is harder to escape the carnage resulting from earth being re-engineered by these psychos.
One of the difficulties with all of this is that everyone ends up sounding like a nutter with an agenda, no matter what their intentions are, or what their research shows.
A bunch of folks are arguing about "what it is" instead of pursuing and executing the perpetrators, who are enemies of all mankind. And by that I mean everyone from the CFR/WEF/ ABCNNBC presenters/NHI/NHS/MoH/ministers/senators/congressmen(of all varieties)/etc , down to the dumb nurses with masks on who 'vaxed' people in carparks. The person who goes along "just because" is your mortal enemy. That's the problem.
The practical reality is this; sharing needles with an hepatic meth whore [who isn't 'vaccinated'] is less risky than taking comirnaty/moderna/j&j/astrazeneca mRNA crap into your arm.
What I don’t understand is why both David Martin and Sasha Latypova keep saying that no-virus is not relevant to the particular aspect of the plandemic that each is focusing on--for Martin, the patent trail of bioweapons and for Latypova, the evidence of war crimes. I don’t see how saying clearly that viruses don’t exist is incompatible with either of those purposes--in fact, for Latypova especially, it only enhances the magnitude of the war crimes if it’s understood that Fauci et al. knew from the start that viruses are a hoax. That just makes everything they did even more egregious! Same with the bioweapons patents. They knew they were patenting genomes that were not viral but could be used to scare the public even more deeply when they came to light only because the public believed that viruses are real and could be patented and produced in a lab.
Similar to why Frances Leader keeps saying the virus/no virus subject isn't relevant and we need to focus on 5G and getting people to see the dangers of that will make the whole set of dominoes fall without much effort....What? Doesn't follow logic. Yes, undoubtedly 5G cause illness and likely deaths where it was deployed, and those were almost certainly coded as COVID 19. So was everything else that people were "sick" with, all of the usual symptoms, etc. The crucial point IS getting people to understand the lack of proof of any contagion ever. That's the only way they will stop giving up life and liberty whenever TPTB say to give it up. The EMF dangers should of course be spread far and wide, the research already exists, but to make that THE one thing that presented the symptoms is doing a lot of damage and will lead to much more harm in the near future.
I think BOTH the no-virus issue as well as the other topics are ALL important. You can see the About tab for this News says, "Topics crucial to Agenda 2030". It is not about the virus issue alone. I am a smorgasbord board writer. I have some affinity for biology and medicine from past experiences but I also wrote about Banking, 5g, Nukes, Climate, Politics, propaganda etc. There are 57 or so posts in 9 months. I'm passionate to figure things out but only a volunteer writer in my spare time.
People who focus deeply on the virus or other topics help the smorgasbord people like me and concerned people like you and me get deep knowledge which is very important. You really flowered on the comments here, great contribution!
Now, for a little advice (not sure your age) from a little old lady who's lived a lot, take heed of where and how much your energy goes. Do what you feel is really important but remember that 20 years from now you may look back and wonder just WTH you were thinking, giving up so much of life to try and educate others when in the end most never learned a darn thing. Pointing others in the right direction is good because some may not truly know where to being to look, but continuing beating your head against brick walls will ultimately rob you, in more ways than one.
When we found out, long after it was too late to do anything (can't fight these guys anyway by any normal route of resistance) about the wind turbines coming in here, on our beautiful farms and pastures, I, and just a couple of others, threw ourselves into learning as much as possible from every angle about this whole scam. It's horrifying how dangerous they are in so many ways and like everything else it's been known and proven for decades! After a few months of it consuming my life, researching and making calls and posts, and even a meeting with others, I realized this was foolish. The time lost, the worry and stress, the resources wasted, for what? Yes, I learned a lot but it has done little good because just like with the virus issue people turn a deaf ear. So, I live with 605 ft tall noisy disruptive and ugly turbines all around me, very, very close. I have chosen to ignore them and set an intention that they cannot and will not ever cause harm to me and any animals, plants and insects I have here. When an individual realizes their own power, where it comes from, and uses it, it really doesn't matter much what the rest of the world thinks and does.
I agree, Country. It seems that sometimes a person will get hold of an issue that to them is THE issue, and they can become so single-focused that they won't or can't see anything else. I've also noticed, Frances Leader being a good example, that people who do this tend to see anyone disagreeing with them as an attack on them--I'm thinking of her complaint that prominent people in the no-virus camp like Tom Cowan and Andy Kaufman have "bullied" her. I suppose it's possible, but I think it's more likely that she felt bullied when they didn't agree that 5G is the only big problem, and probably urged her to see the fraud of virology as also very important. Those guys are not bullies, in my experience! Similar also to Latypova and Martin and how they both took victim stances in the face of being asked simple and polite questions about the existence of viruses. They repeatedly dodge the questions, and then take the continued posing of those questions as attacks on them.
I agree with CB, DM and SL are part of a propaganda kennel, they are never curious about no-virus data, never mention or analyze or discuss it, they only talk on what is clearly CO media: Alex Jones, Stew Peters, Jane Ruby, etc. Frances doesn't speak on the CO circuit. She noted the no-virus in 2020 and did FOIAs etc. She is passionate, perhaps pushy (?) about her ideas but I do not think she is CO.
I agree about Cowan and Kaufman, I have yet to ever see them even remotely act in a bullying manner. With Martin and Latypova I think it's clear it's part of their MO, intentional. With Frances I am not sure now, at first I thought she was legit through and through but am having doubts. Regardless, people that are that easily offended have some sort of issues that need addressing and shouldn't really be responding to comments, IMO. That is their right, of course, and as adults one should be able to think through any response so that it is not a reaction instead.
Hi Besty, it is because their MO is not about truth and helping us. They are working for other agencies. I suggest you read the link about David right under the video image in that post
Yes, I know. I’m really just saying their own arguments as to why they refuse to answer the question of why they won’t say viruses don’t exist when they claim to hold that view—Alec’s question of Martin, your question of Latypova—their reasons for refusing don’t make sense. This is how we know they have another reason for dodging the question. Martin even played the “I was abused as a child” card in a desperate attempt to sidestep Alec’s insistent questioning. Latypova has taken refuge in pointing to how maligned she is by those who press her for an answer. Both taking the victim stance. That’s actually pretty telling in itself.
Maybe it was a question to them. Or an effort to innocently point out the huge gap in their arguments. (I edit for a living, so finding gaps in arguments is my daily work!)
I think the moment you take the stance of no virus (which stance for me is getting more and more plausible as I discover what elaborate systems of lies have been constructed in other, related instances), you lose credibility for anything else you say in the eyes of those who have always believdd in viruses, which - you will agree - is indeed a very easily believable, elegant hypothesis. But as I realize what number of dual-use measures have for decades been flanged onto that basic hypothesis, and how little hard science has been conducted and can be shown to me... I am reconsidering. But most people won't and as for me, too, I have been blocking the no virus stance for at least a year.. before all around me started escalating to the point of ever more implausible deniability.
For me it's the same dynamic but in the opposite direction--since being thoroughly convinced of the correctness of the no-virus position, and the untenability and pseudoscience of germ theory and virology, I am finding it hard to take anyone seriously who continues to adhere to these illogical and harmful ideologies. (I can't, for example, listen to "This Week with Mary and Polly" on CHDTV anymore, as I did routinely for a couple of years.)
The programming is deep, very, very deep and has been going on full tilt for more than a century, teaching us to believe that we can't trust our bodies to know how to stay healthy--now that's what I call elegant--nor can we trust our own judgment and body awareness to understand what's going on when things aren't right. Yet more and more people are waking up, and to me this is a sign that we are also growing up and shedding the belief in the inherent weakness of our bodies and our dependence on experts to give us what we need to be healthy and stay alive.
To me, the most exciting thing about ditching germ theory is that now the question of what causes me to be sick is open much wider, and is also back in my own control. I'm no longer a potential victim of random attack by microbes breathed out by the person standing next to me, but am able to examine my life and take responsibility for how I am eating, exercising, socializing, detoxing, making sure I am getting adequate amounts of essential nutrients, having a balance of solitude and social interaction in my life, and checking in on my sense of purpose and overall energetic centeredness. Germ theory keeps us small. Letting go of it allows us to expand toward the magnificent, multi-dimensional beings of light that humans really are
Betsy, you are correct - the existence of viruses is not very relevant to war crimes. Fauci is also not very relevant since he was hired to do a particular job, he did it, and was given an ironclad immunity deal in exchange. That's why everyone knows his name. And that's why he will never be prosecuted and will live to a very old age happily a rich man.
You might want to re read Betsy's comment. She said she cant understand why you would say its not relevant, because it is. She suggests those perpetuating the virus hoax only makes the case for war crimes stronger. As in, its even more strange that you claim its not relevant.
No, it does not make the case for war crimes stronger at all. It only detracts from the prosecution as it diverts the conversation into a dumb fake binary argument. Which is the point of the "no virus" cult.
“No, it does not make the case for war crimes stronger at all. It only...” ~ @Sasha Latypova It’s obvious that you are mistaken. A real example of a false binary is that you are either honestly mistaken or that you are deliberately lying. It’s not either/or; it’s both and more.
The primary aspect of the war crime is that a (government- and BigPharma-sponsored) fake cure for a (mainstream-media-sponsored) fake disease purportedly caused by a single agent (a nonexistent virus, a pseudoscientific idea) is toxic. The administration of the fake cure, which (so-called) “cure” is authentically toxic, is a crime against humanity and is a war crime.
“It only detracts from the prosecution as it diverts the conversation into a dumb fake binary argument.” ~ @Sasha Latypova
Wrong again. The prosecution is pursuing a dead end by acknowledging that there are good (ie “safe and effective”) vaccines for diseases caused by viruses. (The [so-called] “prosecution” is actually working for the war criminals. That’s what makes you and your ilk [so-called] “controlled opposition”.) The genuine, non-binary argument is to attempt to answer the following: If and only if (so-called) “viruses” -- currently defined not as “poison”, but defined as “a pathogen that is composed of nucleic acid within a protein shell but can grow and reproduce only after infecting a host cell” -- aren’t making people sick, then what are the true etiologies of these sicknesses, diseases, illnesses? That’s anything but “a dumb fake binary argument”, so again you are demonstrating your blatant dishonesty.
“Which is the point of the ‘no virus’ cult.” ~ @Sasha Latypova
No, Sasha or Alexandra. The main “point” of those who challenge the pseudoscience of virology and the applied pseudoscience of epidemiology is to seek genuine scientific understanding of the cause of various diseases.
As for your penchant for throwing out the word “cult” -- with regards to people who bring up nanotechnology, or anthropogenic electromagnetic radiation poisoning, or virology-is-based-on-pseudoscience-and logical-fallacies, or whatever else you ideologically reject -- perhaps you are psychologically inclined to project your own character flaws onto others, while failing to see those flaws in yourself. How do you cognitively behave like a member of a cult, huh?
I greatly appreciate your call for civility in discourse. I have been very disappointed recently in the lack of it on many ss's. Why is this happening now in your opinion?
I am not willing to either accept or deny your above hypothesis at this time, but I am very interested in trying to determine if it is true. Along those lines, is there any person who writes under their own name on the COVID pandemic issue, that you think is not CO or LHO? If there are any, I would like to know their names (from your perspective of course).
It seems that some of the statements you make about specific people do not square with public remarks they have made. For instance, hasn't Yeadon said he no longer believes there was a pandemic and that he does not think a novel respiratory virus was circulating in 2019/2020 (putting aside for the moment the question of whether viruses exist at all)? It's possible what you say about him is true. I just want to be precise about what his position is now and has been. We could discuss lots of examples from what you wrote above. My interest is in determining what is verifiably true irrespective of what that may mean for certain luminaries' credibility.
On other ss's, I have indicated that given the past almost 4 years, it is wise to trust no one but God, (myself included of course). At the very least, every person must now be continually vetted to see if their assertions, pronouncements, predictions can be independently verified. In that regard, I have stopped actively following many people I originally did when, over time, they began to be suspect.
There is another problem that has developed over time. Some people who were very credible on a very specific issue, have branched out into speaking about things that have nothing directly to do with that issue, and in so doing, appear to be venturing into areas where they lack expertise/a proper knowledge base. I'm sure it's tempting to do that, given that people repeatedly ask them for opinions on a wide variety of issues. It would be better to simply admit to not knowing for sure. One could even say, 'my educated opinion is such and such, but I can't prove it' or something along those lines. I have many educated opinions which are really educated guesses after considering what I think are all or most of the relevant pieces of evidence, including that from sacred scripture but I do not claim infallibility or even the ability to prove them. Some I hold to a moral certainty but not scientifically high probability.
I hope you read these comments and respond in the way you called for above (without rancor and with civility). Thank you.
Hi John was this to me? Sorry not sure. Anyway, here SL (or whoever is using her acct) started last week on my "Black Hole..." post running cover for Martin with the discredit by making a cess-pool out of the comments strategy. Wild rudeness can be intentional.
On the Yead here you will understand, READ ALL OF IT!
"Agreeing to the no-virus in late 2022 is like volunteering to clean up the WTC after it has fallen."
If this statement concerns Yeadon's change of POV, I disagree. In the present situation, it means that, in case of new "C19 variants" (which appears on the horizon), Yeadon should no longer support any vaccine nor any other "alternative treatment".
Same regarding SL's hypothesis : at least it admits that the pandemic was faked therefore no need for any prevention treatment of the population (be it "vax" or any other mean). As far as I am concerned, this differs greatly from someone like Steve Kirsch who does not question the pandemic narrative at all and, as you and Omar rightly pointed out, stands ready to promote some other means to "prevent the virus" that, in reality, will contribute to fulfill the 4IR agenda.
Although, statistically wise, one cannot find any trace of pandemic in "all cause mortality" data (see Denis Rancourt's work), I still believe in the possibility that some "clusters" were artificially created in some very local places (Bergam, Italy, Wuhan, China.... In France, an evengilist mass gathering in Mulhouse was pointed out as "starting" cluster) : such situation provide the medical services with real cases. These make the staffs sincerely witnessing that there is a real problem, and put them in condition to accept the "virus identification" (Fu Wan sh***) with a sense of relief.
Were such artificial situation generated using biochemicals (SL) or radio-frequencies (La Quinta Columna or, on substack, Frances Leader : https://francesleader.substack.com/p/all-my-substack-articles-on-emfc19) ? So far, I feel completely unable to conclude. Yet, I consider these views to be completely compatible and complementary with the no-virus approach.
I also personally had told the Yead in email many times since 2021 there was no virus, showing him the Fan Wu Nature paper etc he showed no curiosity about the data being a BIO PHARM PROFESSIONAL while even HS bio students got it. Getting it in 2022 after all got shots is unconscionable run around and a common deception trick.
As I came across the idea of "no virus found" early in the Fraudemic I could not believe my eyes and ears and did not have any explanation why I came across it, as there were certainly voices out there shouting it from the rooftops on top of their lungs and I had never heard about it before. And here it was the puzzle piece that connected a lot of loose ends previously floating around and not making any tangible sense ... resulting in many decisions and convictions being "based" on - hinging on - hunches, intuitions .... FAITH.
The difference being for anyone not having gotten the "language" (to different degrees) to operate on such "knowledge" is lost to lesser devices... which is why TSOS's first and foremost objective is to severe all connections to THE TRUTH - GOD ALMIGHTY!
The paper about MY is very illuminating, while at the same time only another rather obvious case (study) of A HUMAN MIND falling for THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. Which is why "the logos" - effectively the lie-os - stops short of THE TRUTH, as pointed out in the paper. And still, even as a disciple of TSOS - vested interest in making FIAT CURRENCY out of THE LIES - he inevitably uncovers THE TRUTH, even though not as fast as other HUMAN MINDS would like it to be. TSOS cannot give up its PRIDE, which is why it cannot keep its "secrets" as it has to show off its superiority, excavating THE TRUTH piece meal only.
"He is not a friend of the common man." - who of us fallen creatures truly is once push comes to shove - those who are without sin cast the first stone.
Let's keep on the pressure at TSOS by speaking THE TRUTH!
We agree with everything except Yeadon's change. Yeadon kept the virus story alive for 2.5 yrs. Variants, ADE, mild cases, PCR with false positives (there cant be false positives because there is not true positive) and other stuff related to "these vaxes are dangerous" but others could be safe (untrue, all vaxes are dangerous and none have ever been shown to help anyone with anything). So while the Yead was keeping the ghost of the virus alive for 2.5 yrs most everyone got the shots they were going to get. That's why changing POV 2.5 yrs later is toooo late.
Be sure you have read this if you want to talk further about the Yead.
According to Sasha, the no-virus reality is a "dead end", which is false. I tried discussing this with her earlier this year and it was a very strange conversation:
"virus" questions - Sasha Latypova - hop hop, run off, you're banned
I like the way Sasha has re-defined *Viruses* as "[...] cellular communication protocols"...
In the late 1970s-early 1980s autism, a previously rare and widely unknown condition was re-defined - so it could include brain damage from vaccinations, and not so subtly imply autism was a genetic defect..."Treatments not Cures" is Big Pharma's operations motto.
I didn't even try to approach her; she was obviously an agent. Just stopped reading her after a few of her articles sometime in the spring or even before that...
Dear ANONYMOUS person who writes under "Proton Magic" (I hope that's not what your parents named you? if it is your legal name, I greatly sympathize) - Sasha Latypova is my real name and nobody else has access to my account on SS or anywhere else online. Thank you for your concern about this issue. I stand by every word I write here, because I am using my real name. Your writing though is automatically shady and suspect since you are lying about your identity. By the way, I am totally fine if people want to write uncivil comments, I simply block them if they are annoying and stupid, or if they are amusing, I let them be and get them to write some more comedy. Observing you and others whine to each other about "Sasha is mean", well, lolz, it is a form of entertainment for me, and I like a good laugh, so thank you for that!
"Whoever is using her account" haha. Whoever is using PM account... ? Oh my. Must have been hijacked for sure. Maybe there is an entire "back office" using it. Who knows.
Accounts keep being hijacked or their owners forced into compliance; there is nothing new about that. In fact, it was a benevolent assumption by PM. :)
right! I am currently tied to a radiator in a basement operated by a black CIA site. Typing this. Please send agent Keen to rescue. Say high to Proton Protonovich and Christina FOIAvna for me, will you... The rest of this message is written in invisible ink...
I am not suspecting it, I know it, and I wrote many times about it. Substack was set up and funded for the intel agencies to collect dissenting opinions and herd all "freedom movement" into. Substack promotes many clearly fake pro-government accounts, such as CDC masquerading as a "local mom" Katelyn Jetelina. Lol. If you just realized this - welcome to Earth.
"(Putting aside for the moment the question about whether viruses exist al all)" keeps on cropping up in the comments section of nearly all sites posts on *the virus*...
Makes me think of Dr Freud's 'Resistances' (to therapy; to getting well), and seems to be a redoubt for denial or avoidance. ? PM is it my imagination; can you offer an explanation for its consistent & persistent recurrence ? (And is it *infectious* ?)...
The issue has become politicized to the point that people are dug-in to their positions, many of whom in my experience, are unwilling to even list the main reasons why they support one view or the other. It has been impossible for me to get people on ss to engage in a courteous debate about the scientific evidence for and against the existence of viruses as infectious micro-organisms. Too often, I am directed to the Bailey's or the writings of others (by those who say there is no such thing as viruses in general or infectious viruses in particular) which is not helpful any more than pointing someone to one of the many textbooks of virology is useful.
It should be possible for proponents of both sides to agree on what would constitute scientific proof that viruses exist and are capable of infecting humans in such a way as to cause a disease state in that human being. If this is not possible, then it is truly pointless to debate/discuss the issue any further. That's why the comment, "putting aside or bracketing the issue" has been employed by those of us who don't want to have all related topics simply eliminated from discussion.
It might be that this strong difference of opinion has been used by the perpetrators of the current depopulation/enslavement program as a distraction designed to keep people from finally getting to the bottom of what has been done to humanity. It may be part of the psyop that is ongoing.
Hi John, there is only one proof, it doesnt need agreement. 1 A virus is a biologic object by definition. 2. It must be physically separated (purified) from everything else to be confirmed what it is and does. See this and the refs at the bottom, when you've read and understood all of them then pls write back to us.
I understand that the post is primarily concerned with the proof that no new virus was ever proven to exist in 2019/2020 that was named Sars-Cov-2. I am not disagreeing with that. However, there are 11 references at the bottom. Four of the 11 appear to be related to the so-called CV19 virus not having been proven to exist. One seems to address HIV, the other 6 appear to be more generally related to whether viruses exist. I think it is unhelpful and unreasonable to suggest I read them all before replying. I think I'm aware of the arguments for and against the existence of viruses. I am willing to examine them. Are you?
With respect to what you wrote above, I think number 1 is a good partial definition that would be acceptable to proponents and opponents. Number 2 as you have stated it, seems incomplete. A proposed virus, according to the traditional teaching, must be properly collected from a living being with a disease, then isolated and purified such that only it remains, after which it must be reintroduced to a living being to see if the original disease constellation develops. Then, the same virus is collected being careful to isolate and purify it, after which it is compared to the original. If they are identical and it grows in cell culture but not on other non-cellular growth media, it is a virus (as obligate intracellular parasites, viruses cannot reproduce without access to intracellular machinery, unlike bacteria and fungi). If you agree with this we can go further, if not, I would like your description of what would need to be demonstrated.
I told you simple you need to purify, so first density gradient purification, confirm purification on EM, confirm particle pieces and genome-MUST BE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM A PURIFIED sample. about reinfecting re culturing this could be discussed but since no so called virus has been purified and thus no genome taken from a confirmed purified particle no human virus has ever been found. If you think you have a paper of a purified virus you can send to me but it must have been done in the methods not just in the title and some text. I'll look at ONE PAPER because this paper does not exist. If the so called virus is based on a prior virus's purification just go back to the first original paper. If this is not acceptable, sorry yeah you really need to read at least the Farewell to Virology reference. If you dont think you need a purified viral sample, then sorry I cant help you further and only recommend you see those refs.
Meta or next gen sequencing is just assebly in a computer, EM photo of mixed or cell culture stuff, cell culture with no purification, antigen finding, Antibody studies, none of these can be the original finding of a virus.
"Too often, I am directed to the Bailey's or the writings of others (by those who say there is no such thing as viruses in general or infectious viruses in particular) which is not helpful any more than pointing someone to one of the many textbooks of virology is useful. "
That's because when you read and watch the Baileys, Cowan, Kaufman, Lanka, etc, you will also find all of the scientific papers that claim to prove pathogenic contagions they are calling viruses actually exist so you can look one or all of them over yourself. If you can't or don't do that then you have two choices, take their word for it or take the study's conclusions as to what they found. It's pretty much common knowledge about the corruption and deceit in the scientific circle but again, it's your choice to research deeply or take someone's word for it. By pointing you to Bailey's and others it offers you the opportunity to hear the breakdown and explanations of the available science to date from a physician's interpretation and presentation and it's not practical for a SS commenter to state enough of this to satisfy some people and do it in the way that is completely understandable.
There already is a set of steps to proof existence of such a microbe, so there is nothing to agree upon. The difference of opinion you speak of is not a difference of opinion, but an uninformed opinion or intentional misrepresentation of the facts vs stating the scientific facts that we have to date.
I knew straight away that there was nothing out there (no virus/no pathogen/no contagion) when it was reported that this ‘virus’ did not affect children. As a mother I know that children get sick (many parents I know would agree with me) not just once, but many times, especially the young ones and those that follow the normal child vaccination programs and use normal allopathic treatments including antibiotics to suppress symptoms. The virus believers use this fact (children get sick and it can be life threatening) to promote their solutions - vaccines, apparently ‘children need to build their immunity’. So to theorize that a biochemical was released/dispersed that doesn’t affect children because of their bacteria levels/diversity doesn’t make any sense.
The PCR/RA tests were just a mechanism to get people into hospitals to accept the treatments/the vaccine that would then result in injury or death. They simply re-classified normal colds/flu/pneumonia symptoms - the statistics clearly show this. There was no release, there was no contagion, but there was/is clear evidence of poisoning via injection or other medications/protocols that were implemented after the pandemic was declared.
Many people will not be able to go there (no virus) as they have based their whole life’s work/their existence on a belief that has been their foundation for their education/career and medical choices. People that choose to avoid the subject or promote the viral pathogen fallacy to save face will in my opinion eventually lead to their own demise both mentally and physically, they shouldn’t be attacking/disparaging an alternate theory without any real evidence because it doesn’t align with their narrative. As soon as that happens, the person loses all credibility, best to move on and let them deal with their own conscience.
More and more evidence is coming to light …there was no virus…
Proton Magic have you seen Jonathan Englar’s substack:
Hi, I'm really sorry but this is the "lie in the truth cupcake". He's right about the cases and deaths but then he's off the rails.
"Of course, the truth is that leaks at biolabs happen rather frequently"
👉No, bioweapons can not be made so there are no pathogens to leak
"In a study of infection rates, an active censoring process. By suppressing immunity, the injections might have made the recipient more vulnerable to infection shortly after vaccination."
👉No, there is no virus to be infected with.
"This would effectively pull-backwards infections that might have occurred naturally, but at some later point in time. Thus, infections in injection recipients would tend to be concentrated within this short period of time, rather than subject to the natural infection process. By censoring any reports of infections that occurred in this short period the reported infection rate in the injected would then be significantly smaller than the reported infection rate in those not injected."
👉how many times to you want to drill the word "infection" which does not exist into us?
"Most analyses only examine “covid” related events (infections, hospitalisations and deaths). However, given (1) the inconsistencies and uncertainties around categorisation into “covid” and “non-covid” buckets,"
👉how many times to you want to drill the word "covid" which is nonexistant into us?
"specific blood-borne antibody to one discrete part of a highly mutable virus provides little clinically relevant protection, especially to “variants”.
👉there is no antibody or mutant or variant because there is no pathogen.
Because its written in Aug '23 and they should know better about the no-virus this smells like an intentional deception, priming us for the next infection, virus, and variants.
Not sure we are talking about the same substack - Aug 4th?
He goes through many of the propagandized statements to prove that none of them add up. There was no viral spread in Northern Italy - ‘it was as if a bomb went off’. There was no viral contagion in NY - it didn’t start in one spot and then move to the next location as you would expect if it was spreading through the community. There was no lab leak of anything viral or biochemical- worldwide mortality statistics clearly show this. All of the deaths can be directly attributed to the Covid measures that were put into play in distinct locations. He is using their logic to show that none of it makes sense, there was nothing new introduced except fear and a narrative that drove people to take an injection/anti virals and give up their freedoms.
He knows there is no virus/infection and that the PCR test is bogus - he is showing that their narrative is all lies.
Maybe I read and heard something different to you?
Indeed he shows no contagion and the stats showing no lab leak yes and yes. BUT, as I put in the comment above he leaves the lingering idea in the reader that bioweapons, infections, viruses, mutants, variants are real things, and maybe they could come out sometime. Simply, if NO VIRUS has never been proven to exist, and none has, then no viral bioweapon, infection, mutant, or variant can either exist. If it is not clear to you that NO VIRUS has been proven to exist I will give you more info. Bacteria exist but they are also not weapons, but lets leave bacteria out of it for now.
and had other similar data in 2020 even. I agree with all of it except their reifying viruses, Covid, bioweapons, infection, and variants.
If you realize there are no viruses then you should realize this part of that ss is mistaken wordage or possibly intentional double speak to plant lingering message that these things exist in the reader. Either way they are terms with no basis in reality. I'm just going by the fact of what they wrote, if they deny these in the pod cast great, but its in writing. If you think that is ok, that is your free choice of course.
Yeah, that article that Laura links to seems to be mostly legit, as he frequently (and correctly) states there was no "pandemic" and usually references "covid" using quote marks (although he does not do the same with "SARS-CoV-2").
Still, he manages to give us the following, which effectively outs him as a "believer":
"[The establishment] now appears to be allowing the lab-leak story to come out, and in fact even encouraging it. That is because it would much rather people preoccupy themselves with the mystery of 'where did it come from?' than they attempt to seriously address two questions:
▪ Is the SARS-CoV-2 virus actually relatively more lethal than the respiratory viruses that typically occur during winter?, and
Omar is right. The entire 4IR Utopian Future drive is built upon widespread belief in viruses, a belief sustained by fear of the unknown / fear of contagion - irrational anxieties...Remove *the virus* and the whole 4IR deck of cards should collapse...Should - but reason and rationality have very little purchase when we're overwhelmed by anxieties...
I'm no scientist so i cant assert we're now post-peak oil, but i'm sure that our 0verlords believe we're post-peak oil - and their belief is the reason for the *global warming* (aka *climate change*) psyop, and the fantasy of oil & coal dependent transport & industry being replaced by EVs etc...Maintaining Control over Us is required to keep their Nightmares at bay...
Peak Oil is the "scarcity strategy". Oil is abiotic and made in the mantle of the earth, it is infinite as far as humanity would need. Of course the petroleum industry will deny this.
Finally! I hear someone state that oil is infinite. So is water, yet they love to use scarcity to control. We were supposed to run out of oil in the 70's......
Peak oil etc are the most reasonable explanation as a cause of anxiety and frantic behaviour by the higher echelons of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN that I have come across so far - apart from the inherent anxiety of TSOS, which is regularly only temporarily tamed by more HUBRIS... BOOM AND BUST!
Everyone interested in a even bigger PONZI SCHEME does not have to look further than THE FIAT CURRENCY SYSTEM...
I am certain that there was a toxin/pathogen aspect to the whole thing. The new idea you have given me is that potentially, even the putting of furin cleavage sites into products and then pseudo-secretly discussing those furin cleavage sites' existence, for later theatrical Foia unveiling of those discussions to lend credibility to virus angle and distract from mere pathogen spread, can be another of those red herrings. - Proton Magic, what do you think about Karen Kingston? I would hate to assume this but the fact that she is detailing how and why she is persecuted, and how this is supposedly to make everyone afraid of doing something - either she is right, or she is not being persecuted, but is herself trying to make everyone afraid of doing something because "look at me and see what will happen to you too". I would hate that, but if this is an information war, then people are not identifiable by their uniform.
Hi, there's no virus so there is no furin cleavage site and there is no spike protein made by the vaxes, there is no mRNA making it and you can also see fluoridefreepeel.ca FOI requests for spike to the CDC with "no record". What protein/enzyme do you suggest to be put in what product and where will it go and stay in the body? Thinking creatively is great but it has to be based on what we know about these things.
Normal people would have curiosity about proof that Fan Wu assembled Sars in a computer. My purpose is to mention this and get banned which smokes out who is clearly running deception propaganda. I can then make screen shots and make a post out of it. Even HS bio students can understand Fan Wu when given some help. This is the same thing Alec did to David Martin.
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Could there be intentionally engineered pathogenic-toxic sequences that harm, while not being viruses - but all the rest stays true and deliberate and deliberately harmful? What seems to be a fact is that all kinds of toxic substances can deplete important trace minerals in the body, thereby disrupting mitochondrial functioning and impairing and derailing all sorts of vital processes, think deficiency syndromes like scurvy, beri beri, and these syndromes, as unrecognized for what they are, are then not treated by repletion of the respective trace minerals, thus persist, and labeled COVID, long COVID. And speaking of vitamin c depletion, what do you think about this article which I find fascinating.
Sounds as if potentially, our vitamin c production in humans that seems to be still there in neonates, is subsequently inactivated, repeatedly or continuously, by administration of aluminum via various routes, starting with the childhood vaccination schedule.
Covid or Long Covid in the vaxed is mainly a cover for vax injury. Before vaccines it was due to PCR test injury/toxins and protracted flu as in every year.
Tell me how you think engineered pathogenic-toxic sequences , assuming you mean "causing" all of the declared COVID cases, would be dispersed to all areas of the world? To every family? In every community and rural area? Not the sky because that's being going on for a very, very long time. As well, thousands, or millions never had symptoms during that time. Why?
Dispersed not to every family. You say it yourself that not everyone was sick. That's because it wasn't dispersed everywhere. Did you see the presentation from/with the mad bioethicist from Georgetown who explained how he can poison a number of (influential) people to create sentinel cases who complain of illness, and where doctors will confirm that illness. And then he can suggest that a very dangerous illness is virulent, and divulge which are the symptoms to expect, among which a lot of 'psychosomatic" ones. And the worried well will do the rest. Worry... Test... Clamor for restrictions of themselves and of others. And all that with a pathogen but without a virus. (And we know by now how a lot of pathogens impair the mitochondria which causes 'Long Covid' syndrome, and also, how a lot of poisons will make the body react with flu like symptoms, because that is what happens when the immune system gets active, regardless of what it is that triggers its activation.
Agree. That was my point. Not only is it not necessary to disperse anything to everyone to make people become "ill", but it's not even possible as some have been claiming. But people will believe what they want and need to believe until such time as it no longer serves them.
She started on Stew Peters who started on Alex Jones. They are all in the fold giving some truths that intertwine with lies and sub lies and misleading narratives.
OMG, you are hilarious. Thanks for the homage. I hope your engagement numbers go up after this, after all a famous celebrity like me noticed something you wrote! LOL. By the way, that document you link "investigating" Team Enigma, I have not read all of it yet (22 pages, oh my!), the picture they have for Craig Paardekooper - that's not Craig. Some investigator, what a sherlock! All he had to do is look at videos I posted or Craig posted and see that. The garbage he spins is pricelessly funny. Craig built a website that got 100M+ visitors and credited as the best redpilling material around. He did it with no money living in poverty in Africa. Write more, friend.
The doc is not about the photo, it is about the message put out by that group and its members, the readers can investigate further, as I said, I do no vouch for the veracity of every point.
On me, I do not wish nor try to be famous, and this substack is completely free and I have noted many times I DO NOT ACCEPT ANY DONATIONS, thus I have no financial gain from engagement numbers. Other people, perhaps yourself? do monetize your ss and have donation buttons on the HP like Enigma's how bad is my batch site.
Now please stay polite, appreciated. Names like "Sherlock" is just about out of bounds. If you will try using the the "discredit strategy" of making a cess-pool out of this post I will delete your comments then ban you and you will not be able to reply to your detractors-which I honestly wish you have the right to, politely this time.
I gonna copy your comment here removing the nasties and delete your comment but will give you a few min to edit yourself if you want. Omar may be incorrect about some or many things but he is not foul mouthed.
I've only got time to do this a few times then I will just delete your comments, then ban you. Pls respect the politeness rule on this post and all future posts. It's not jut you, I will delete then ban any foul language on this post.
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That document is trash full of lies, innuendos, smears. cringe but funny. "Sherlock" is out of bounds, but writing total ---- about good people is not. I see. I enjoyed reading it and had a good laugh. That person has no clue about professional aspects of drug development, nor what my companies did (I sold all of them long before 2020 and has not had any relationship with them since). He does not understand what Jessica does, or what Mike Yeadon did professionally. And how would he? I would not know much about petroleum extraction or aircraft building, for example. Of course claims of us saying vaccines can be safe are total fabrication by this ---- individual who decided to use the Daily Beast as source material! That was just precious. We never said that. We were the first ones in the world who identified the fact that these were non cGMP compliant, unregulated, purposefully adulterated poisons.
PS. all this is old news anyway. None of us (except probably Craig) work on this analysis anymore. We got the answers we needed. There is no Team Enigma, the name was sort of symbolic anyway.
Do whatever you want, that's your page. Just to note - you agree this Omar guy maybe wrong and misunderstands stuff. And he smeared liberally some very good people who did some of the most valuable work out there and for no pay whatsoever. Seems like a great source document to be quoting when writing a smear piece about me. Has it occurred to you to ask questions from me about this instead of relying on Omar-who-may-be-mistaken? I would have answered by the way. Lol.
I'm not gonna say yes or no to Omar's paper on Enigma, his works in general provide good insights, many provable by looking at public info he references. Here I encourage anyone, including you, to debunk or support his work, politely.
I am supposed to be polite at insults and smears thrown at me? How funny all of you guys are. I already told this to your other friend - I am not nice, but I am fair. And no, I will not dignify Omar or your creative writing here with any "debunking", explanations or anything of this sort. Play detectives all you want, it seems like a fun activity. Sorry, friend, you will have to learn that if you want goodwill you have to actually show you have it.
In the comment section, Latypova responded to my comments, making her stance even clearer than before. I refused to engage in a conversation, because her comments speak for themselves.
What is your approach five years after moving on from Neuropsychiatry?
Substack, from the very beginning, has been a honey pot, but in return, it also offered the opportunity to make friends. The globalists' greatest enemy is people keeping in touch:
"2. Similar to David Martin, her C-V in Omar’s link lists more things than could be possible for most people unless they were more loosely attached to the projects than is suggested. I can tell you for sure that even talented Pharma persons will very rarely have these kinds of multiple opportunities unless they have some special backing/connections."
what in my CV indicates that? I only ever held 1 job at a time, and they are all listed there. maybe you never held a job and so that makes you think that this is an unachievable feat? Just curious.
Scientific 'knowledge' is like the banking system - full of toxic debts packaged as IF appreciable assets in complex instruments devised to obfuscate while packaged and sold in narrative persuasions for private manipulation seeking covert gain of believed fiction. So the need as i see is to seek logical consistency while also identifying the assumptions or assertions on which logics are based.
There is another innate approach to any offer or engagement that discerns gaslighting, neediness, manipulation, persuasion, as fundamentally false - even if using truths to mask a-tempt to gain covert boost of identity by the manipulation or use of the other. BUT if we are already engaged in such patterns we will not want to see, but instead seek our own boosting reinforcement within the framing narratives for self-specialness - or 'being right' over others wrong, or enlightened over others ignorance - including first to know and 'we told you so!'.
Narrative coercions result the struggle of minds in conflict to redistribute blame & penalty away from self - and by extension group - that holds the position & means to define & dictate terms of engagement - such as insider-elitism in banking, science, and ideological construct (I wont call it philosophy).
The root of conflict is in wanting or needing to believe true, what is not so, or of course wanting or needing to ignore or deny what is true as a means to escape or evade conflicts that hold inner patterns of self-division as masking relational conflict. The mind set in judgement from which all else proceeds in like kind.
I don't accept coronovirus, covid, pandemic, SARS Cov2, 'tests', 'vaccines', 'gene-therapy', spike protein' as valid definitions from which to respond.
I do accept that the mode of attack is the principle means of defence for a covert masking identity of conflict set for getting, instead of giving & receiving. So the body is used as both means of defence - as masking and distancing a 'special private judging mind' , and as a means for attack with, and upon both self and others, for the true function of body is Communication. Attempts to use communication as a means of attack is to 'attack our own functional joy of being' under a sense of lack-driven override or control.
So the signature of such a dissociating 'self-conscious' conflict is of hacking, hijacking and replicating itself as the determiner of meanings, taken out of context as a mis-taken inheritance, set on getting, by an unconscious underlying fear of lack, invalidity, untruth or lie set in place of a life we 'attack' by a mode of thinking that knows not what it does - for that is its raison d'etre - to defend against what we do not want to see, know or face and own.
The physical cannot really disconnect from its psyche or psychic context, but insofar as we see its patterning or structural order, we see charged domains of flux - an electromagnetic binding and transmuting transformation interactive exchange of molecular to galactic order that is 'in motion' as a balanced disequilibrium. Our current maps & definitions of reality reflect the nature of predictive control as an automata or asserted rule or dictate to which reality conforms.
But the logical outcome of attempts to control life (Reality) is to be controlled by our own judgement unwittingly. The fragmenting dissociations of conflict do not really 'control' but operate as an externalised systemic experience of subjection - no matter how intense the fantasies acted out on the body as 'freedom' to be what we are not.
Toxic thinking underlies our engagement in a toxic 'reality'. But release of the false is the gift of the truly shared - not the machinations of thought-control set as 'inclusion' by which to exclude the love of freedom to be all that we are, for an 'ideal' gaslit projection against which life is held unreal, unworthy, sick, weak, and shameful - to be stamped out or replaced by vengeance as a 'self-vindicating' 'death' set over life.
Rinse & repeat - or Reset "New Game!" ?
Living thought joins across space and time.
True resonance receives to give all to all. (Meaning)
Playing in the dissonance sets up a complex of 'meanings' by which we can be phished.
"Come into my framing" said the spider to the fly.
Aug 13, 2023·edited Aug 13, 2023Liked by Proton Magic
Its rather crazy how the difference in perception between people is so huge. majority seems happy with: if the turd is wrapped in glittering paper it has a pass regardless of the insane stink. While a small percentage couldnt be made to even consider this turd, just their intuition is enough for them to make the right decision...
Me being part of the second group, sometimes I feel like an alien ....
Good question, I remember seeing that comment but can't find it now either. The exact mechanism of possible shedding seems undiscussed. To me its multiple, inhaling/exhaling, skin extrusion, exchange of fluids from close contact into the mouth? Osmosis is movement from higher to lower concentrations, hmm, maybe that and diffusion, Brownian Motion. To me the most common likely mechanism would be inhalation of droplets, but I really dont know. Sorry! Wrapped up in turd seems less likely but who knows?
But what would you think is being "shed"? A physical transfer of something that would create the symptoms I've read doesn't make sense. If that were the case, again, shouldn't most if not all of those unvaxxed exposed to the vaxxed being having problems? Nah, that rotten in Denmark thing again. There can be too many other causes.
Dear Rich, did you mean the, "did someone say it was open question day?"
You asked too many broad questions, some unrelated to this post, and some of personal nature that really do not relate to this News. And no one should expect me to reply to every comment-you may realize it is taking many hours to deal with them and I am doing this 100% volunteer. If you have one specific question you can put it in reply to this.
About the laugh. This was a note to SIRIUS in respect to the sense of humor. It is not necessary to criticize my note really. If you are too critical or make snide remarks then people wont engage with you. Ok, lets start from a clean slate if you will be polite and clear to me. Thanks.
It appears that neither you, Proton Magic, or this gentleman Omar have addressed the extraordinary work, findings, & analyses of Katherine Watt (“Bailiwick News” Substack). Out of all the presentations made by various “freedom fighters”, hers are the most solid. Unlike many other individuals, she is not tainted by ego, bias, or self-aggrandisement. I challenge you to assail her or her work if you can. I don’t believe you’ll be able to.
I understand the “no virus” camp but none of its advocates (at times, militants) have presented a solid, alternate theory as to what is causing virus like symptoms (eg. why measles causes a certain symptomology compared to that of Hepatitis, etc.) other than proffering the Terrain theory. If the “no virus” camp were to claim that all viruses are actually caused by bacteria & could prove their theory then there would be no more argument & the public would finally let go
of their fear of “viruses”. People will cling to an idea or theory, even though it’s wrong/inaccurate unless they are provided with a viable alternate explanation/theory - something has to fill the void; it’s not enough to claim that there are no viruses.
It’s not wrong to question someone’s stance on an issue, their statements, their background and history, and/or their actions. Those who we look to as leaders in this fight against the globalist-elites should not be put on a pedestal, they need to be called if necessary. Once, I admonished Christine Massey & Sasha Latypova because they engaged in a very puerile & unprofessional exchange on Substack. I also challenged Joseph Sansone & Karen Kingston regarding their paywalls. All of the these people have done good work and have brought the public closer to the Truth. I respect/admire them all. Yet, like the rest of us “normies”, they make mistakes and suffer errors in judgment.
I would disagree at this time with your and Omar’s assessment regarding Yeadon, Latypova, Team Enigma, & Mikovits. As regards Robert Malone, a former CIA employee who has never disavowed this agency, the likelihood that he’s controlled opposition is quite substantial. My gut impression of Malone after watching an interview of him in April/May of 2021 was that he was a liar and untrustworthy.
I came to realize that Steve Kirsch is most likely controlled opposition as well when he interviewed Sasha earlier this year. He referred to his friend Bill Gates as “Billy” and seemed hard-pressed to believe that Billy would want to harm people and depopulate the world via vaccines. This kind of naivety is not possible for someone like Kirsch. More recently, I’ve begun to question RFK, Jr. & Edward Dowd because of their continuing association with Malone. Del Bigtree has also sparked suspicion.
And as of this moment, I begin to question what your game is, Proton Magic. I responded earlier today to a posting you made about HCQ and IVM. I find it ironic that in this present article you criticize Sasha for not substantiating her claims yet I could equally accuse you of the same in regards to your statement that HCQ and IVM are harmful. Please don’t expect me to take your word for it. Show me & the public your evidence please. Sasha has in fact provided a good deal of documentation in her videos and articles regarding certain claims she has made So, where’s yours?
Dear Veronica, the majority of your comment is your opinion and I have no comment. I was going to get some references on HCQ and IVM but after I saw some aggressive remarks from you like,
"I begin to question what your game is, Proton Magic.?"
I think we are at the end of our rope. You could get all your same ideas across just written more politely. If you cannot be polite in my comment section you can bring it to your own SS.
You can censor, ban, or delete me if you feel you must but I don’t believe my comment was in any way aggressive or an ad hominem attack. I approached what you had to say about Sasha & her claims with an open mind. She is not perfect and shouldn’t be placed on a pedestal. However, I found your approach in dealing with her to be colored by some malice or ill will which made me question your motives. I speak honestly as an observer. Of course, you don’t have to agree with me. But if I felt compelled to admonish Sasha for her very unseeming exchanges with Christine Massey, then why not you?
Isn’t it interesting that so many conservatives and Christians who complained about being censored by the media, government, and liberals do the same to others when they feel challenged by a legitimate question? Oh, the hypocrisy!
As for the evidence you could possibly present regarding the dangers of HCQ and IVM, so many of the publications currently available have been undermined by biased clinical studies. And if you were going to rely on such to prove your point then you would have to also present Dr. Fauci’s own paper written years ago wherein he acknowledged the effectiveness of HCQ against coronaviruses.
Again, HCQ and IVM, have such a long history of success in treating various elements that it is really hard now to discredit these substances. People & the media have equally attempted to discredit CDS (or MMS) yet people have used this substance for years without any adverse effects. Whatever the physicians or scientists might say, the anecdotal or empirical evidence
regarding the benefits of HCQ, IVM, and CDS is even more substantial.
We’ve all heard the predictions from Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates about another imminent pandemic. The US government has already allocated monies for Marburg/Ebola/Hemorrhagic viruses. There are no known cures for any of these & their mortality rate is astronomically high, in the 80 - 90 percentiles. As HCQ, IVM, and Fenbendazole are all zinc ionophores, these drugs in combination with zinc and other supplements/nutraceuticals can prevent against infection from these deadly pathogens. In fact before 2019, Fenbendazole was being promoted as a prophylactic in military manuals for those serving in Africa who might encounter Marburg and Ebola.
So, if we have an outbreak of one of the lethal Hemorrhagic viruses (a painful death which induces bleeding from all the orifices of the body, including the eyes) will you continue to denounce the zinc ionophores of HCQ & IVM and opt to be “shot” by a DoD “vaccine” (weapon) which was developed in 100 days or less, was not tested, and lacks long-term safety data?
You can quibble with Sasha regarding certain particulars of her claims, but you cannot defeat her primary claim that the shots are “countermeasure” weapons deployed by the US military, the DoD, under a health emergency façade. Few have had the courage to come forward or do the research to confirm these facts outside of Katherine Watt, Sasha, and attorney Todd Callender. Denis Rancourt presented a compelling study months ago that linked the shots and excess deaths/all cause mortality rates (I believe data from various countries was considered). Clearly, the shots are killing masses of people. Prior to the outbreak of Covid-19, lipid nano particles (LPNs) were already deemed to be potential bio-weapons. Karen Kingston has backed up this fact.
So my query to you is, if you’re truly sincere in wanting to get to the truth about the Covid shots then why aren’t you also questioning Katherine Watt, attorney Todd Callender, & Karen Kingston (among others) who’ve also stated that the “vaccines” are chemical/biological and even radiological weapons? When you are exclusively focus on just ONE proponent of this claim then yes I do question what your “game” is & so should everyone else.
ATTACK ON THE PROTON MAGIC NEWS
A recent post:
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-black-hole-you-can-never-wipe
stimulated a maelstrom of acerbic comments and as they grew it became clear this was an intentional attack using the, "Discredit by Making a Cesspool Strategy".
As a counter strategy I decided to :
1. Let the comments stand to show the attack was happening and their content.
2. Make this sibling post focusing on the specific issue brought up in that post of a chemical mimicking "Sars virus" symptoms.
3. Have a hard rule of "NET ZERO" insults and foul language on this new post.
4. Include an analysis of the attack and the background thereof as you have read in this post.
Letting you know just to be transparent to readers on the bigger picture behind this post.
Yours truly, Proton Magic
"3. Have a hard rule of "NET ZERO"...and foul language on this new post."--You're killing us, with laughter--after your black hole post--foul language? and your other most recent posts except this one flow like that, and contribute little--just random references and suggestions--to those of us outside the immediate loop of where you're going with it all. After telling us how bad Martin is, you leave us to sift through his long video ourselves to find out what the heck you are talking about--after--after sucking our Martin-viewing energy all the way out of us by telling us he's really, really terrible.
Tom, generally I want to the comments to be organic and flow freely as I am a fan of free speech (except for a few situations), the Black Hole I could see was getting attacked (the make a cesspool tactic-a type of censuring) and I made an intentional plan to do this sibling post because I wanted to leave the foul language in Black Hole.. as a proof of the attack, and this post as a proof of some illogical pseudo science. That's why I copied the science opinion part into this post as the other had a different anti-propaganda strategy. The only prior post with lots of foul language was "Isolated Terrain", that was also attacked by Broze and I wanted to leave proof of that attack. I decided not to make a no-attack sibling out of that one (as yet).
Out of 55 or so posts there are only these 2 (Isolated and Black Hole) with the cesspool attack going on, each by only 1 person making nearly 100 comments each making a cesspool of and watering down the comment section. These are standard propaganda attack tactics. If you don't realize who is behind this well, sorry this comment isn't the right place to go into it, but the actual persons/accounts writing the attack are not what is behind the attack, and if you do not agree with my anti-censuring strategy, that's also ok. If you're friendly I'm happy to get advice, if not well please find a better SS. This is a free SS and I am only a volunteer writer, better yet, why don't you take the vid and make your own SS? You can put a link in the comments and show us how it should be done.
If you think that the other 53 posts are foul besides the satire in the post itself I can only suggest you don't read this SS anymore. On Martin, I mainly wanted to spread the video that Zeck made and I included the post by Omar Jordan. The vid is 40 min at 2x speed, you can watch just part of it, you can read just part of Omar's post, or you can ditch my post and move on. I certainly do not want to force you to go thru any of it. You can see with 62 likes it was an immensely interesting video for many viewers, but hey different strokes for different folks. Take care.
I over-killed it on the "advice."
Actually, I hadn't read the comments section on that one, because I watched it a few weeks ago when that whole comments thread wasn't there. So I just meant your post title about sitting on the toilet--and then you say you don't want foul language in your next post... Just a small comment here, don't make too much of it.
As for the next thing I said: some comments I had gotten a year ago from you were so detailed, as was this post, but the Substack on Martin avoided explicitly stating anything at all (as does--37 min. mark, still--Martin) so I was just surprised. But just forget it, my comment--your on the right track, keep up the good work.
And not sure about the "year ago". The PM News started 9 months ago and I dont reacall "so detailed comments". But maybe there were, and I dont mind if you call me out on things that are specific and we can read together, I have often changed text in posts because of good advice. Take it easy.
A thread starting March 29 of this year, on another person's Substack, I think. Somewhere you and [Someone and] Donny joined the thread and it was all really detailed, compared to what one usually can easily find.
Oh, ok, if you have a link I'm happy to review. Anyway, let bygones be gonzo, we keep moving ahead to figure out life!
Ok thanks. Not sure which was sitting on the toilet, recently there was the airlines testing shit for Covid, and whether Fan Wu discoverer of Sars 2 pooped then flushed, too many lately even I get confused. But yes. the toilet paper image was for what was coming out of DM's mouth, in satire of course. Take care.
"To me, mentioning chemical poisoning without being clear that no virus has been found is leading the average person away from considering there is no virus to a focus on chemicals."
Agreed. Enviromental poisoning is the cause of all disease = food poisoning, water poisoning, air poisoning. I believe that when we get poisoned (poisons can be administered in trillion ways) we develop symptoms which are then thought to be caused by "viruses" and "pathogens".
Terrain theory is key! Teach it to as many poeple as possible!
When it comes to CONvid19 NO POISONING IS INVOLVED - except of course for the "vaccination"
The CDC ARBITRARILY decided what was CONvid19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs_bBk
Environment to me means everything that the body has to somehow process. So of course, vaccination is included. And there are a lot of poisonous/toxic substances in these vaccines, no?
CDC just put a name on what was known as a flu, right?
Check my stack on Microbiome/Ferments/Immune system/Aura if you are interested in these things.
https://siriusispodstruje.substack.com/p/fermented-food-microbiome-human-aurabio
I have a -Plandemic 2020- folder as well
https://siriusispodstruje.substack.com/p/plandemic-2020
" Enviromental poisoning is the cause of all disease = food poisoning, water poisoning, air poisoning. I believe that when we get poisoned (poisons can be administered in trillion ways) we develop symptoms which are then thought to be caused by "viruses" and "pathogens"." - and can you (SIRIUS or any casual onlooker) think of of any single cause of all mentioned?
I do not understand your question mate. single cause for what - that is mentioned?
No problem as it is not very surprising - all the poisonings mentioned above....
yeah, your question had no sense. there are different poisons and they could be administered in a trillion ways...
Thank you for your reply!
Envenomation makes the most sense, for initial poisoning and shots.
https://stewpeters.podbean.com/e/world-premiere-watch-the-water/
Gram, apologies, but the envenomation theory doesn't flow well. there can't be venom in the water because neither kids nor animals get sick or die, and there's too much water, you would need impossible amount of venom to not be diluted nor break down on it's travel from the water works to your tummy. Not to mention venoms are peptides, they would just be digested in your tummy. You can even drink snake venom no worries.
Peters and Ardis are distracting from the fact that the real dangers are fake tests, shots and hospital protocols. They give out some good info and suck you into an info trap they set later, THEY ARE NOT your friends.
I suspect that most that discuss the "causes" or more often it's a single cause that's attempted to be shown as the culprit, live in or around cities? I say this because over the last 3 years in our very rural area, (150 miles from a very large city, 60 from anything other than a very tiny rural town), we have had no more numbers of "sick" people than usual, although admittedly this is not an official number, if there ever exists such a thing. Yes, people became ill, but it was only rarely something that seemed more serious and I imagine that when it was it was a combination of the already instilled fear of what to expect, how "deadly" it would be, and so forth and so on. The deaths we had were, in each case, people that went to the hospital for the deadly protocols. Every. Single. One.
It was, plain and simple, murder. I followed the treatment and death of a 40 yr old co-worker of a local family member who went to the hospital. It was criminal. Medical malpractice. Murder.
We certainly live in a toxic environment. Our skies are sprayed often daily, with a few days reprieve now and then and an occasional entire week free. We have a few large corporate farming operations that use chemicals in massive amounts. We have 605 ft high wind turbines, (a health hazard of their own in numerous ways), and all the usual toxic foods, etc. Many have their own gardens, of course, as do I, butcher and consume their own meats, hunt, fish, and the like. Without a doubt these things cannot be totally toxin free, however. That said, if a single source of illness, or even multiple sources, were somehow specifically deployed country wide, or even globally, why would not there be countless illnesses in our rural areas? We have no 5G and probably never will. While I totally understand how the installation and activation of 5G towers/antennas would make people ill, and even die often suddenly, that is certainly not "the" cause for all areas. This lends one to conclude that as usual people get sick from a number of reasons or a culmination of inputs, and that includes fear, expectations, thoughts, beliefs, as well as physical toxicity. To me it's very clear that it was the treatments, (and probably the tests as well) that sealed the deal for those that died. For those that were ill but recovered it's no different than any other illness. Now, once the injections rolled out and people took those therein started a whole other method of poisoning and that should not be confused with the pre-vax period or with those that have never received one. As PM says, venom simply could not cause serious illness by ingestion, nor can many toxins, and the dispersal of anything via the water in anything other than small sources just isn't attainable.
The fact that 3 years later so many are trying to determine "the" cause is telling. There is no one cause for illness, but TPTB know that by using media in all forms they can get people to accept that as true, and also accept that the only solution is what they offer. I have a neighbor who says he was "sicker than I've ever been" and claims to have had CV and believes he still has lingering effects. Yet, where would he have gotten this? We are, as I said, very rural, only a few houses in this couple mile square area and then only one dotted here and there on the farms. Why weren't we all sick? None of the narratives make sense. Jon Rappoport does a good job of breaking down the single cause theory among other narratives. There's also the phenomenon of the Amish communities and other groups not becoming ill. This of course easily shows the contagion theory to be hard to swallow.
Common sense, logic, deduction, observation, and nature all show that this whole ordeal, like all of the others over the years, was in no way what it seemed and was simply a construct given to people that worked.
This! 👆🏼Jon Rappaport said it all along, that “IT” is not ONE THING! There are no viruses making people sick, lots of things make people sick, and people’s health isn’t all the same to begin with. Thank you for this post and for this comment!
Multiple vectors , by any means possible. I personally think Graphene Oxide is a major part (among others) GO can be aerosolized ( smaller than many viruses)
Coated with polyethylene glycol and sprayed onto food , PCR tests and inside of masks. Remember the masks in Canada that were found to have GO in them . ONE mother who was paying attention and masks were recalled. You know what bothers me no follow up from the 3 letter agencies , Canadian US etc.
Also the recent Chinese Biolab situation in Reedley Ca , so allegedly numerous pathogens in a closed down warehouse where PCR tests and pregnancy tests were made , why no picture of or description of these ‘tests’ so they can be avoided by the public….WTF also how many workers and 0 arrests… also one article mentions another warehouse in Fresno….. no follow up. I kid you not a couple articles wrote of the deplorable condition the mice were subjected to.
One level above the symptoms referred to it is not ONE THING fully agreed - but in the FINAL ANALYSIS it is! Till one does not arrive at the final bifurcation the "causes" - which are truly only symptoms themselves - are endless!
You have to be totally mentally asleep to be a covid lover. It's like believing in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy.
Whenever you are sick, diseased or ill in some way, it is your body telling you that it is overburdened with toxins and under performing. There is no virus or disease to catch. The world is becoming a toxic cesspool and it is the human hating cowards creating it.
It is harder to escape the carnage resulting from earth being re-engineered by these psychos.
ABSOLUTELY - not getting caught up in the pool of REAL MENTAL TOXICITY - THE LIE - is the demarcation line between LIFE and DESTRUCTION!
One of the difficulties with all of this is that everyone ends up sounding like a nutter with an agenda, no matter what their intentions are, or what their research shows.
A bunch of folks are arguing about "what it is" instead of pursuing and executing the perpetrators, who are enemies of all mankind. And by that I mean everyone from the CFR/WEF/ ABCNNBC presenters/NHI/NHS/MoH/ministers/senators/congressmen(of all varieties)/etc , down to the dumb nurses with masks on who 'vaxed' people in carparks. The person who goes along "just because" is your mortal enemy. That's the problem.
The practical reality is this; sharing needles with an hepatic meth whore [who isn't 'vaccinated'] is less risky than taking comirnaty/moderna/j&j/astrazeneca mRNA crap into your arm.
Correct, the planners have the "make a mess" agents all over us. There are many onion layers above the CFR and WEF of course.
What I don’t understand is why both David Martin and Sasha Latypova keep saying that no-virus is not relevant to the particular aspect of the plandemic that each is focusing on--for Martin, the patent trail of bioweapons and for Latypova, the evidence of war crimes. I don’t see how saying clearly that viruses don’t exist is incompatible with either of those purposes--in fact, for Latypova especially, it only enhances the magnitude of the war crimes if it’s understood that Fauci et al. knew from the start that viruses are a hoax. That just makes everything they did even more egregious! Same with the bioweapons patents. They knew they were patenting genomes that were not viral but could be used to scare the public even more deeply when they came to light only because the public believed that viruses are real and could be patented and produced in a lab.
Similar to why Frances Leader keeps saying the virus/no virus subject isn't relevant and we need to focus on 5G and getting people to see the dangers of that will make the whole set of dominoes fall without much effort....What? Doesn't follow logic. Yes, undoubtedly 5G cause illness and likely deaths where it was deployed, and those were almost certainly coded as COVID 19. So was everything else that people were "sick" with, all of the usual symptoms, etc. The crucial point IS getting people to understand the lack of proof of any contagion ever. That's the only way they will stop giving up life and liberty whenever TPTB say to give it up. The EMF dangers should of course be spread far and wide, the research already exists, but to make that THE one thing that presented the symptoms is doing a lot of damage and will lead to much more harm in the near future.
I think BOTH the no-virus issue as well as the other topics are ALL important. You can see the About tab for this News says, "Topics crucial to Agenda 2030". It is not about the virus issue alone. I am a smorgasbord board writer. I have some affinity for biology and medicine from past experiences but I also wrote about Banking, 5g, Nukes, Climate, Politics, propaganda etc. There are 57 or so posts in 9 months. I'm passionate to figure things out but only a volunteer writer in my spare time.
People who focus deeply on the virus or other topics help the smorgasbord people like me and concerned people like you and me get deep knowledge which is very important. You really flowered on the comments here, great contribution!
You do a fantastic job!
Now, for a little advice (not sure your age) from a little old lady who's lived a lot, take heed of where and how much your energy goes. Do what you feel is really important but remember that 20 years from now you may look back and wonder just WTH you were thinking, giving up so much of life to try and educate others when in the end most never learned a darn thing. Pointing others in the right direction is good because some may not truly know where to being to look, but continuing beating your head against brick walls will ultimately rob you, in more ways than one.
When we found out, long after it was too late to do anything (can't fight these guys anyway by any normal route of resistance) about the wind turbines coming in here, on our beautiful farms and pastures, I, and just a couple of others, threw ourselves into learning as much as possible from every angle about this whole scam. It's horrifying how dangerous they are in so many ways and like everything else it's been known and proven for decades! After a few months of it consuming my life, researching and making calls and posts, and even a meeting with others, I realized this was foolish. The time lost, the worry and stress, the resources wasted, for what? Yes, I learned a lot but it has done little good because just like with the virus issue people turn a deaf ear. So, I live with 605 ft tall noisy disruptive and ugly turbines all around me, very, very close. I have chosen to ignore them and set an intention that they cannot and will not ever cause harm to me and any animals, plants and insects I have here. When an individual realizes their own power, where it comes from, and uses it, it really doesn't matter much what the rest of the world thinks and does.
Stay healthy and happy!
I agree, Country. It seems that sometimes a person will get hold of an issue that to them is THE issue, and they can become so single-focused that they won't or can't see anything else. I've also noticed, Frances Leader being a good example, that people who do this tend to see anyone disagreeing with them as an attack on them--I'm thinking of her complaint that prominent people in the no-virus camp like Tom Cowan and Andy Kaufman have "bullied" her. I suppose it's possible, but I think it's more likely that she felt bullied when they didn't agree that 5G is the only big problem, and probably urged her to see the fraud of virology as also very important. Those guys are not bullies, in my experience! Similar also to Latypova and Martin and how they both took victim stances in the face of being asked simple and polite questions about the existence of viruses. They repeatedly dodge the questions, and then take the continued posing of those questions as attacks on them.
I agree with CB, DM and SL are part of a propaganda kennel, they are never curious about no-virus data, never mention or analyze or discuss it, they only talk on what is clearly CO media: Alex Jones, Stew Peters, Jane Ruby, etc. Frances doesn't speak on the CO circuit. She noted the no-virus in 2020 and did FOIAs etc. She is passionate, perhaps pushy (?) about her ideas but I do not think she is CO.
I agree about Cowan and Kaufman, I have yet to ever see them even remotely act in a bullying manner. With Martin and Latypova I think it's clear it's part of their MO, intentional. With Frances I am not sure now, at first I thought she was legit through and through but am having doubts. Regardless, people that are that easily offended have some sort of issues that need addressing and shouldn't really be responding to comments, IMO. That is their right, of course, and as adults one should be able to think through any response so that it is not a reaction instead.
Hi Besty, it is because their MO is not about truth and helping us. They are working for other agencies. I suggest you read the link about David right under the video image in that post
https://gregwyatt.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Who_is_David_Martin.pdf
Yes, I know. I’m really just saying their own arguments as to why they refuse to answer the question of why they won’t say viruses don’t exist when they claim to hold that view—Alec’s question of Martin, your question of Latypova—their reasons for refusing don’t make sense. This is how we know they have another reason for dodging the question. Martin even played the “I was abused as a child” card in a desperate attempt to sidestep Alec’s insistent questioning. Latypova has taken refuge in pointing to how maligned she is by those who press her for an answer. Both taking the victim stance. That’s actually pretty telling in itself.
Oh ok, if you are making this statement then all rational people agree with you. I thought it was a question. Sorry and keep going!
Maybe it was a question to them. Or an effort to innocently point out the huge gap in their arguments. (I edit for a living, so finding gaps in arguments is my daily work!)
Coherence is paramount out of which causality reveals itself ....
Asking questions is the only way to find out!
I think the moment you take the stance of no virus (which stance for me is getting more and more plausible as I discover what elaborate systems of lies have been constructed in other, related instances), you lose credibility for anything else you say in the eyes of those who have always believdd in viruses, which - you will agree - is indeed a very easily believable, elegant hypothesis. But as I realize what number of dual-use measures have for decades been flanged onto that basic hypothesis, and how little hard science has been conducted and can be shown to me... I am reconsidering. But most people won't and as for me, too, I have been blocking the no virus stance for at least a year.. before all around me started escalating to the point of ever more implausible deniability.
See this post and the references at the bottom
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/fan-wu-naked-centerfold
For me it's the same dynamic but in the opposite direction--since being thoroughly convinced of the correctness of the no-virus position, and the untenability and pseudoscience of germ theory and virology, I am finding it hard to take anyone seriously who continues to adhere to these illogical and harmful ideologies. (I can't, for example, listen to "This Week with Mary and Polly" on CHDTV anymore, as I did routinely for a couple of years.)
The programming is deep, very, very deep and has been going on full tilt for more than a century, teaching us to believe that we can't trust our bodies to know how to stay healthy--now that's what I call elegant--nor can we trust our own judgment and body awareness to understand what's going on when things aren't right. Yet more and more people are waking up, and to me this is a sign that we are also growing up and shedding the belief in the inherent weakness of our bodies and our dependence on experts to give us what we need to be healthy and stay alive.
To me, the most exciting thing about ditching germ theory is that now the question of what causes me to be sick is open much wider, and is also back in my own control. I'm no longer a potential victim of random attack by microbes breathed out by the person standing next to me, but am able to examine my life and take responsibility for how I am eating, exercising, socializing, detoxing, making sure I am getting adequate amounts of essential nutrients, having a balance of solitude and social interaction in my life, and checking in on my sense of purpose and overall energetic centeredness. Germ theory keeps us small. Letting go of it allows us to expand toward the magnificent, multi-dimensional beings of light that humans really are
Betsy, you are correct - the existence of viruses is not very relevant to war crimes. Fauci is also not very relevant since he was hired to do a particular job, he did it, and was given an ironclad immunity deal in exchange. That's why everyone knows his name. And that's why he will never be prosecuted and will live to a very old age happily a rich man.
You might want to re read Betsy's comment. She said she cant understand why you would say its not relevant, because it is. She suggests those perpetuating the virus hoax only makes the case for war crimes stronger. As in, its even more strange that you claim its not relevant.
No, it does not make the case for war crimes stronger at all. It only detracts from the prosecution as it diverts the conversation into a dumb fake binary argument. Which is the point of the "no virus" cult.
“No, it does not make the case for war crimes stronger at all. It only...” ~ @Sasha Latypova It’s obvious that you are mistaken. A real example of a false binary is that you are either honestly mistaken or that you are deliberately lying. It’s not either/or; it’s both and more.
The primary aspect of the war crime is that a (government- and BigPharma-sponsored) fake cure for a (mainstream-media-sponsored) fake disease purportedly caused by a single agent (a nonexistent virus, a pseudoscientific idea) is toxic. The administration of the fake cure, which (so-called) “cure” is authentically toxic, is a crime against humanity and is a war crime.
“It only detracts from the prosecution as it diverts the conversation into a dumb fake binary argument.” ~ @Sasha Latypova
Wrong again. The prosecution is pursuing a dead end by acknowledging that there are good (ie “safe and effective”) vaccines for diseases caused by viruses. (The [so-called] “prosecution” is actually working for the war criminals. That’s what makes you and your ilk [so-called] “controlled opposition”.) The genuine, non-binary argument is to attempt to answer the following: If and only if (so-called) “viruses” -- currently defined not as “poison”, but defined as “a pathogen that is composed of nucleic acid within a protein shell but can grow and reproduce only after infecting a host cell” -- aren’t making people sick, then what are the true etiologies of these sicknesses, diseases, illnesses? That’s anything but “a dumb fake binary argument”, so again you are demonstrating your blatant dishonesty.
“Which is the point of the ‘no virus’ cult.” ~ @Sasha Latypova
No, Sasha or Alexandra. The main “point” of those who challenge the pseudoscience of virology and the applied pseudoscience of epidemiology is to seek genuine scientific understanding of the cause of various diseases.
As for your penchant for throwing out the word “cult” -- with regards to people who bring up nanotechnology, or anthropogenic electromagnetic radiation poisoning, or virology-is-based-on-pseudoscience-and logical-fallacies, or whatever else you ideologically reject -- perhaps you are psychologically inclined to project your own character flaws onto others, while failing to see those flaws in yourself. How do you cognitively behave like a member of a cult, huh?
I greatly appreciate your call for civility in discourse. I have been very disappointed recently in the lack of it on many ss's. Why is this happening now in your opinion?
I am not willing to either accept or deny your above hypothesis at this time, but I am very interested in trying to determine if it is true. Along those lines, is there any person who writes under their own name on the COVID pandemic issue, that you think is not CO or LHO? If there are any, I would like to know their names (from your perspective of course).
It seems that some of the statements you make about specific people do not square with public remarks they have made. For instance, hasn't Yeadon said he no longer believes there was a pandemic and that he does not think a novel respiratory virus was circulating in 2019/2020 (putting aside for the moment the question of whether viruses exist at all)? It's possible what you say about him is true. I just want to be precise about what his position is now and has been. We could discuss lots of examples from what you wrote above. My interest is in determining what is verifiably true irrespective of what that may mean for certain luminaries' credibility.
On other ss's, I have indicated that given the past almost 4 years, it is wise to trust no one but God, (myself included of course). At the very least, every person must now be continually vetted to see if their assertions, pronouncements, predictions can be independently verified. In that regard, I have stopped actively following many people I originally did when, over time, they began to be suspect.
There is another problem that has developed over time. Some people who were very credible on a very specific issue, have branched out into speaking about things that have nothing directly to do with that issue, and in so doing, appear to be venturing into areas where they lack expertise/a proper knowledge base. I'm sure it's tempting to do that, given that people repeatedly ask them for opinions on a wide variety of issues. It would be better to simply admit to not knowing for sure. One could even say, 'my educated opinion is such and such, but I can't prove it' or something along those lines. I have many educated opinions which are really educated guesses after considering what I think are all or most of the relevant pieces of evidence, including that from sacred scripture but I do not claim infallibility or even the ability to prove them. Some I hold to a moral certainty but not scientifically high probability.
I hope you read these comments and respond in the way you called for above (without rancor and with civility). Thank you.
Hi John was this to me? Sorry not sure. Anyway, here SL (or whoever is using her acct) started last week on my "Black Hole..." post running cover for Martin with the discredit by making a cess-pool out of the comments strategy. Wild rudeness can be intentional.
On the Yead here you will understand, READ ALL OF IT!
https://mega.nz/file/MEI2XSDb#dqHqCI7rjZbm-AyLsWdi3zRutf2MiKb1OLILQ7gmnGE
Agreeing to the no-virus in late 2022 is like volunteering to clean up the WTC after it has fallen.
Take care
"Agreeing to the no-virus in late 2022 is like volunteering to clean up the WTC after it has fallen."
If this statement concerns Yeadon's change of POV, I disagree. In the present situation, it means that, in case of new "C19 variants" (which appears on the horizon), Yeadon should no longer support any vaccine nor any other "alternative treatment".
Same regarding SL's hypothesis : at least it admits that the pandemic was faked therefore no need for any prevention treatment of the population (be it "vax" or any other mean). As far as I am concerned, this differs greatly from someone like Steve Kirsch who does not question the pandemic narrative at all and, as you and Omar rightly pointed out, stands ready to promote some other means to "prevent the virus" that, in reality, will contribute to fulfill the 4IR agenda.
Although, statistically wise, one cannot find any trace of pandemic in "all cause mortality" data (see Denis Rancourt's work), I still believe in the possibility that some "clusters" were artificially created in some very local places (Bergam, Italy, Wuhan, China.... In France, an evengilist mass gathering in Mulhouse was pointed out as "starting" cluster) : such situation provide the medical services with real cases. These make the staffs sincerely witnessing that there is a real problem, and put them in condition to accept the "virus identification" (Fu Wan sh***) with a sense of relief.
Were such artificial situation generated using biochemicals (SL) or radio-frequencies (La Quinta Columna or, on substack, Frances Leader : https://francesleader.substack.com/p/all-my-substack-articles-on-emfc19) ? So far, I feel completely unable to conclude. Yet, I consider these views to be completely compatible and complementary with the no-virus approach.
I also personally had told the Yead in email many times since 2021 there was no virus, showing him the Fan Wu Nature paper etc he showed no curiosity about the data being a BIO PHARM PROFESSIONAL while even HS bio students got it. Getting it in 2022 after all got shots is unconscionable run around and a common deception trick.
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/yeadon-disappears-thru-brick-wall
He is not a friend of the common man.
As I came across the idea of "no virus found" early in the Fraudemic I could not believe my eyes and ears and did not have any explanation why I came across it, as there were certainly voices out there shouting it from the rooftops on top of their lungs and I had never heard about it before. And here it was the puzzle piece that connected a lot of loose ends previously floating around and not making any tangible sense ... resulting in many decisions and convictions being "based" on - hinging on - hunches, intuitions .... FAITH.
The difference being for anyone not having gotten the "language" (to different degrees) to operate on such "knowledge" is lost to lesser devices... which is why TSOS's first and foremost objective is to severe all connections to THE TRUTH - GOD ALMIGHTY!
The paper about MY is very illuminating, while at the same time only another rather obvious case (study) of A HUMAN MIND falling for THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN. Which is why "the logos" - effectively the lie-os - stops short of THE TRUTH, as pointed out in the paper. And still, even as a disciple of TSOS - vested interest in making FIAT CURRENCY out of THE LIES - he inevitably uncovers THE TRUTH, even though not as fast as other HUMAN MINDS would like it to be. TSOS cannot give up its PRIDE, which is why it cannot keep its "secrets" as it has to show off its superiority, excavating THE TRUTH piece meal only.
"He is not a friend of the common man." - who of us fallen creatures truly is once push comes to shove - those who are without sin cast the first stone.
Let's keep on the pressure at TSOS by speaking THE TRUTH!
We agree with everything except Yeadon's change. Yeadon kept the virus story alive for 2.5 yrs. Variants, ADE, mild cases, PCR with false positives (there cant be false positives because there is not true positive) and other stuff related to "these vaxes are dangerous" but others could be safe (untrue, all vaxes are dangerous and none have ever been shown to help anyone with anything). So while the Yead was keeping the ghost of the virus alive for 2.5 yrs most everyone got the shots they were going to get. That's why changing POV 2.5 yrs later is toooo late.
Be sure you have read this if you want to talk further about the Yead.
https://mega.nz/file/MEI2XSDb#dqHqCI7rjZbm-AyLsWdi3zRutf2MiKb1OLILQ7gmnGE
A typical use of limited hangout.
According to Sasha, the no-virus reality is a "dead end", which is false. I tried discussing this with her earlier this year and it was a very strange conversation:
"virus" questions - Sasha Latypova - hop hop, run off, you're banned
https://christinemasseyfois.substack.com/p/virus-questions-sasha-latypova-hop
I like the way Sasha has re-defined *Viruses* as "[...] cellular communication protocols"...
In the late 1970s-early 1980s autism, a previously rare and widely unknown condition was re-defined - so it could include brain damage from vaccinations, and not so subtly imply autism was a genetic defect..."Treatments not Cures" is Big Pharma's operations motto.
I didn't even try to approach her; she was obviously an agent. Just stopped reading her after a few of her articles sometime in the spring or even before that...
I note that the territory of "offense taken" is well demarcated in S.L'.s replies on this thread...
So be it.
Now, can she answer the points in question ...(from within those confines...?).
No, not planning to answer any dumb questions, if that was the question. I don't owe any answers to anyone, especially to a psy-op cult.
But I heartily agree with everything else you have said.
Thanks PM.
Regarding Yeadon, I'll keep your points in mind and will observe how he behaves when the next push on shots happens (if it happens...).
Dear ANONYMOUS person who writes under "Proton Magic" (I hope that's not what your parents named you? if it is your legal name, I greatly sympathize) - Sasha Latypova is my real name and nobody else has access to my account on SS or anywhere else online. Thank you for your concern about this issue. I stand by every word I write here, because I am using my real name. Your writing though is automatically shady and suspect since you are lying about your identity. By the way, I am totally fine if people want to write uncivil comments, I simply block them if they are annoying and stupid, or if they are amusing, I let them be and get them to write some more comedy. Observing you and others whine to each other about "Sasha is mean", well, lolz, it is a form of entertainment for me, and I like a good laugh, so thank you for that!
"Whoever is using her account" haha. Whoever is using PM account... ? Oh my. Must have been hijacked for sure. Maybe there is an entire "back office" using it. Who knows.
Accounts keep being hijacked or their owners forced into compliance; there is nothing new about that. In fact, it was a benevolent assumption by PM. :)
right! I am currently tied to a radiator in a basement operated by a black CIA site. Typing this. Please send agent Keen to rescue. Say high to Proton Protonovich and Christina FOIAvna for me, will you... The rest of this message is written in invisible ink...
Nobody said that. What people are actually suspecting that the following script keeps repeating itself:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/bait-and-switch-for-the-masses
I am not suspecting it, I know it, and I wrote many times about it. Substack was set up and funded for the intel agencies to collect dissenting opinions and herd all "freedom movement" into. Substack promotes many clearly fake pro-government accounts, such as CDC masquerading as a "local mom" Katelyn Jetelina. Lol. If you just realized this - welcome to Earth.
"(Putting aside for the moment the question about whether viruses exist al all)" keeps on cropping up in the comments section of nearly all sites posts on *the virus*...
Makes me think of Dr Freud's 'Resistances' (to therapy; to getting well), and seems to be a redoubt for denial or avoidance. ? PM is it my imagination; can you offer an explanation for its consistent & persistent recurrence ? (And is it *infectious* ?)...
I can only answer for myself.
The issue has become politicized to the point that people are dug-in to their positions, many of whom in my experience, are unwilling to even list the main reasons why they support one view or the other. It has been impossible for me to get people on ss to engage in a courteous debate about the scientific evidence for and against the existence of viruses as infectious micro-organisms. Too often, I am directed to the Bailey's or the writings of others (by those who say there is no such thing as viruses in general or infectious viruses in particular) which is not helpful any more than pointing someone to one of the many textbooks of virology is useful.
It should be possible for proponents of both sides to agree on what would constitute scientific proof that viruses exist and are capable of infecting humans in such a way as to cause a disease state in that human being. If this is not possible, then it is truly pointless to debate/discuss the issue any further. That's why the comment, "putting aside or bracketing the issue" has been employed by those of us who don't want to have all related topics simply eliminated from discussion.
It might be that this strong difference of opinion has been used by the perpetrators of the current depopulation/enslavement program as a distraction designed to keep people from finally getting to the bottom of what has been done to humanity. It may be part of the psyop that is ongoing.
Hi John, there is only one proof, it doesnt need agreement. 1 A virus is a biologic object by definition. 2. It must be physically separated (purified) from everything else to be confirmed what it is and does. See this and the refs at the bottom, when you've read and understood all of them then pls write back to us.
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/fan-wu-naked-centerfold
Definition of "virus" is toxin. Lol.
And that's not how it's been used and you know it. And if it was then it wouldn't be a pathogenic contagion that cannot be isolated.
I understand that the post is primarily concerned with the proof that no new virus was ever proven to exist in 2019/2020 that was named Sars-Cov-2. I am not disagreeing with that. However, there are 11 references at the bottom. Four of the 11 appear to be related to the so-called CV19 virus not having been proven to exist. One seems to address HIV, the other 6 appear to be more generally related to whether viruses exist. I think it is unhelpful and unreasonable to suggest I read them all before replying. I think I'm aware of the arguments for and against the existence of viruses. I am willing to examine them. Are you?
With respect to what you wrote above, I think number 1 is a good partial definition that would be acceptable to proponents and opponents. Number 2 as you have stated it, seems incomplete. A proposed virus, according to the traditional teaching, must be properly collected from a living being with a disease, then isolated and purified such that only it remains, after which it must be reintroduced to a living being to see if the original disease constellation develops. Then, the same virus is collected being careful to isolate and purify it, after which it is compared to the original. If they are identical and it grows in cell culture but not on other non-cellular growth media, it is a virus (as obligate intracellular parasites, viruses cannot reproduce without access to intracellular machinery, unlike bacteria and fungi). If you agree with this we can go further, if not, I would like your description of what would need to be demonstrated.
I told you simple you need to purify, so first density gradient purification, confirm purification on EM, confirm particle pieces and genome-MUST BE TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM A PURIFIED sample. about reinfecting re culturing this could be discussed but since no so called virus has been purified and thus no genome taken from a confirmed purified particle no human virus has ever been found. If you think you have a paper of a purified virus you can send to me but it must have been done in the methods not just in the title and some text. I'll look at ONE PAPER because this paper does not exist. If the so called virus is based on a prior virus's purification just go back to the first original paper. If this is not acceptable, sorry yeah you really need to read at least the Farewell to Virology reference. If you dont think you need a purified viral sample, then sorry I cant help you further and only recommend you see those refs.
Meta or next gen sequencing is just assebly in a computer, EM photo of mixed or cell culture stuff, cell culture with no purification, antigen finding, Antibody studies, none of these can be the original finding of a virus.
"Too often, I am directed to the Bailey's or the writings of others (by those who say there is no such thing as viruses in general or infectious viruses in particular) which is not helpful any more than pointing someone to one of the many textbooks of virology is useful. "
That's because when you read and watch the Baileys, Cowan, Kaufman, Lanka, etc, you will also find all of the scientific papers that claim to prove pathogenic contagions they are calling viruses actually exist so you can look one or all of them over yourself. If you can't or don't do that then you have two choices, take their word for it or take the study's conclusions as to what they found. It's pretty much common knowledge about the corruption and deceit in the scientific circle but again, it's your choice to research deeply or take someone's word for it. By pointing you to Bailey's and others it offers you the opportunity to hear the breakdown and explanations of the available science to date from a physician's interpretation and presentation and it's not practical for a SS commenter to state enough of this to satisfy some people and do it in the way that is completely understandable.
There already is a set of steps to proof existence of such a microbe, so there is nothing to agree upon. The difference of opinion you speak of is not a difference of opinion, but an uninformed opinion or intentional misrepresentation of the facts vs stating the scientific facts that we have to date.
Well said CB
https://open.substack.com/pub/jonrappoport?r=7yhx1&utm_medium=ios
Jon Rappaport. I’ll link his substack.
I knew straight away that there was nothing out there (no virus/no pathogen/no contagion) when it was reported that this ‘virus’ did not affect children. As a mother I know that children get sick (many parents I know would agree with me) not just once, but many times, especially the young ones and those that follow the normal child vaccination programs and use normal allopathic treatments including antibiotics to suppress symptoms. The virus believers use this fact (children get sick and it can be life threatening) to promote their solutions - vaccines, apparently ‘children need to build their immunity’. So to theorize that a biochemical was released/dispersed that doesn’t affect children because of their bacteria levels/diversity doesn’t make any sense.
The PCR/RA tests were just a mechanism to get people into hospitals to accept the treatments/the vaccine that would then result in injury or death. They simply re-classified normal colds/flu/pneumonia symptoms - the statistics clearly show this. There was no release, there was no contagion, but there was/is clear evidence of poisoning via injection or other medications/protocols that were implemented after the pandemic was declared.
Many people will not be able to go there (no virus) as they have based their whole life’s work/their existence on a belief that has been their foundation for their education/career and medical choices. People that choose to avoid the subject or promote the viral pathogen fallacy to save face will in my opinion eventually lead to their own demise both mentally and physically, they shouldn’t be attacking/disparaging an alternate theory without any real evidence because it doesn’t align with their narrative. As soon as that happens, the person loses all credibility, best to move on and let them deal with their own conscience.
More and more evidence is coming to light …there was no virus…
Proton Magic have you seen Jonathan Englar’s substack:
https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/dismantling-the-covid-pandemic-and?utm_source=profile&utm_medium=reader2
Hi, I'm really sorry but this is the "lie in the truth cupcake". He's right about the cases and deaths but then he's off the rails.
"Of course, the truth is that leaks at biolabs happen rather frequently"
👉No, bioweapons can not be made so there are no pathogens to leak
"In a study of infection rates, an active censoring process. By suppressing immunity, the injections might have made the recipient more vulnerable to infection shortly after vaccination."
👉No, there is no virus to be infected with.
"This would effectively pull-backwards infections that might have occurred naturally, but at some later point in time. Thus, infections in injection recipients would tend to be concentrated within this short period of time, rather than subject to the natural infection process. By censoring any reports of infections that occurred in this short period the reported infection rate in the injected would then be significantly smaller than the reported infection rate in those not injected."
👉how many times to you want to drill the word "infection" which does not exist into us?
"Most analyses only examine “covid” related events (infections, hospitalisations and deaths). However, given (1) the inconsistencies and uncertainties around categorisation into “covid” and “non-covid” buckets,"
👉how many times to you want to drill the word "covid" which is nonexistant into us?
"specific blood-borne antibody to one discrete part of a highly mutable virus provides little clinically relevant protection, especially to “variants”.
👉there is no antibody or mutant or variant because there is no pathogen.
Because its written in Aug '23 and they should know better about the no-virus this smells like an intentional deception, priming us for the next infection, virus, and variants.
Not sure we are talking about the same substack - Aug 4th?
He goes through many of the propagandized statements to prove that none of them add up. There was no viral spread in Northern Italy - ‘it was as if a bomb went off’. There was no viral contagion in NY - it didn’t start in one spot and then move to the next location as you would expect if it was spreading through the community. There was no lab leak of anything viral or biochemical- worldwide mortality statistics clearly show this. All of the deaths can be directly attributed to the Covid measures that were put into play in distinct locations. He is using their logic to show that none of it makes sense, there was nothing new introduced except fear and a narrative that drove people to take an injection/anti virals and give up their freedoms.
He knows there is no virus/infection and that the PCR test is bogus - he is showing that their narrative is all lies.
Maybe I read and heard something different to you?
I typoed '24 and now changed to '23. Apologies, and I put in the quotes.
Yes the link you put in your comment.
Indeed he shows no contagion and the stats showing no lab leak yes and yes. BUT, as I put in the comment above he leaves the lingering idea in the reader that bioweapons, infections, viruses, mutants, variants are real things, and maybe they could come out sometime. Simply, if NO VIRUS has never been proven to exist, and none has, then no viral bioweapon, infection, mutant, or variant can either exist. If it is not clear to you that NO VIRUS has been proven to exist I will give you more info. Bacteria exist but they are also not weapons, but lets leave bacteria out of it for now.
I know there are no viruses.
Typically when you quote from a text inverted commas are used, so your reply was very confusing.
I don’t think you have comprehended this article and it is clear you haven’t listened to the podcast either.
Don’t bother wasting your time as your knowledge is obviously superior to us commoners.
I have used that same data in a post 4 months ago https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-most-entertaining-government
and had other similar data in 2020 even. I agree with all of it except their reifying viruses, Covid, bioweapons, infection, and variants.
If you realize there are no viruses then you should realize this part of that ss is mistaken wordage or possibly intentional double speak to plant lingering message that these things exist in the reader. Either way they are terms with no basis in reality. I'm just going by the fact of what they wrote, if they deny these in the pod cast great, but its in writing. If you think that is ok, that is your free choice of course.
Yeah, that article that Laura links to seems to be mostly legit, as he frequently (and correctly) states there was no "pandemic" and usually references "covid" using quote marks (although he does not do the same with "SARS-CoV-2").
Still, he manages to give us the following, which effectively outs him as a "believer":
"[The establishment] now appears to be allowing the lab-leak story to come out, and in fact even encouraging it. That is because it would much rather people preoccupy themselves with the mystery of 'where did it come from?' than they attempt to seriously address two questions:
▪ Is the SARS-CoV-2 virus actually relatively more lethal than the respiratory viruses that typically occur during winter?, and
▪ If not then what caused all the deaths?”
Ugh.
Omar is right. The entire 4IR Utopian Future drive is built upon widespread belief in viruses, a belief sustained by fear of the unknown / fear of contagion - irrational anxieties...Remove *the virus* and the whole 4IR deck of cards should collapse...Should - but reason and rationality have very little purchase when we're overwhelmed by anxieties...
I'm no scientist so i cant assert we're now post-peak oil, but i'm sure that our 0verlords believe we're post-peak oil - and their belief is the reason for the *global warming* (aka *climate change*) psyop, and the fantasy of oil & coal dependent transport & industry being replaced by EVs etc...Maintaining Control over Us is required to keep their Nightmares at bay...
Peak Oil is the "scarcity strategy". Oil is abiotic and made in the mantle of the earth, it is infinite as far as humanity would need. Of course the petroleum industry will deny this.
http://viewzone.com/abioticoilx.html
Finally! I hear someone state that oil is infinite. So is water, yet they love to use scarcity to control. We were supposed to run out of oil in the 70's......
👆I’ve believed this for 40 years…
Peak oil etc are the most reasonable explanation as a cause of anxiety and frantic behaviour by the higher echelons of THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN that I have come across so far - apart from the inherent anxiety of TSOS, which is regularly only temporarily tamed by more HUBRIS... BOOM AND BUST!
Everyone interested in a even bigger PONZI SCHEME does not have to look further than THE FIAT CURRENCY SYSTEM...
I am certain that there was a toxin/pathogen aspect to the whole thing. The new idea you have given me is that potentially, even the putting of furin cleavage sites into products and then pseudo-secretly discussing those furin cleavage sites' existence, for later theatrical Foia unveiling of those discussions to lend credibility to virus angle and distract from mere pathogen spread, can be another of those red herrings. - Proton Magic, what do you think about Karen Kingston? I would hate to assume this but the fact that she is detailing how and why she is persecuted, and how this is supposedly to make everyone afraid of doing something - either she is right, or she is not being persecuted, but is herself trying to make everyone afraid of doing something because "look at me and see what will happen to you too". I would hate that, but if this is an information war, then people are not identifiable by their uniform.
Hi, there's no virus so there is no furin cleavage site and there is no spike protein made by the vaxes, there is no mRNA making it and you can also see fluoridefreepeel.ca FOI requests for spike to the CDC with "no record". What protein/enzyme do you suggest to be put in what product and where will it go and stay in the body? Thinking creatively is great but it has to be based on what we know about these things.
On Karen, see this
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/karen-kingston-substack-banns-proton
and decide if she got the Gretchen Whitmer deal, the JFK deal, or what.
even KK banned you? Ha! Good for her, but she lacks sense of humor. I don't.
Normal people would have curiosity about proof that Fan Wu assembled Sars in a computer. My purpose is to mention this and get banned which smokes out who is clearly running deception propaganda. I can then make screen shots and make a post out of it. Even HS bio students can understand Fan Wu when given some help. This is the same thing Alec did to David Martin.
No idea what you are talking about, but you look pretty when you do it. So do continue.
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Could there be intentionally engineered pathogenic-toxic sequences that harm, while not being viruses - but all the rest stays true and deliberate and deliberately harmful? What seems to be a fact is that all kinds of toxic substances can deplete important trace minerals in the body, thereby disrupting mitochondrial functioning and impairing and derailing all sorts of vital processes, think deficiency syndromes like scurvy, beri beri, and these syndromes, as unrecognized for what they are, are then not treated by repletion of the respective trace minerals, thus persist, and labeled COVID, long COVID. And speaking of vitamin c depletion, what do you think about this article which I find fascinating.
https://mejbcart.substack.com/p/edta-the-universal-covid19-spike
Sounds as if potentially, our vitamin c production in humans that seems to be still there in neonates, is subsequently inactivated, repeatedly or continuously, by administration of aluminum via various routes, starting with the childhood vaccination schedule.
Covid or Long Covid in the vaxed is mainly a cover for vax injury. Before vaccines it was due to PCR test injury/toxins and protracted flu as in every year.
Tell me how you think engineered pathogenic-toxic sequences , assuming you mean "causing" all of the declared COVID cases, would be dispersed to all areas of the world? To every family? In every community and rural area? Not the sky because that's being going on for a very, very long time. As well, thousands, or millions never had symptoms during that time. Why?
Dispersed not to every family. You say it yourself that not everyone was sick. That's because it wasn't dispersed everywhere. Did you see the presentation from/with the mad bioethicist from Georgetown who explained how he can poison a number of (influential) people to create sentinel cases who complain of illness, and where doctors will confirm that illness. And then he can suggest that a very dangerous illness is virulent, and divulge which are the symptoms to expect, among which a lot of 'psychosomatic" ones. And the worried well will do the rest. Worry... Test... Clamor for restrictions of themselves and of others. And all that with a pathogen but without a virus. (And we know by now how a lot of pathogens impair the mitochondria which causes 'Long Covid' syndrome, and also, how a lot of poisons will make the body react with flu like symptoms, because that is what happens when the immune system gets active, regardless of what it is that triggers its activation.
Agree. That was my point. Not only is it not necessary to disperse anything to everyone to make people become "ill", but it's not even possible as some have been claiming. But people will believe what they want and need to believe until such time as it no longer serves them.
KK may be controlled, (contrived) opposition. IDK, but she seemed to appear out of nowhere like somebody important that everyone should listen to.
She started on Stew Peters who started on Alex Jones. They are all in the fold giving some truths that intertwine with lies and sub lies and misleading narratives.
OMG, you are hilarious. Thanks for the homage. I hope your engagement numbers go up after this, after all a famous celebrity like me noticed something you wrote! LOL. By the way, that document you link "investigating" Team Enigma, I have not read all of it yet (22 pages, oh my!), the picture they have for Craig Paardekooper - that's not Craig. Some investigator, what a sherlock! All he had to do is look at videos I posted or Craig posted and see that. The garbage he spins is pricelessly funny. Craig built a website that got 100M+ visitors and credited as the best redpilling material around. He did it with no money living in poverty in Africa. Write more, friend.
The doc is not about the photo, it is about the message put out by that group and its members, the readers can investigate further, as I said, I do no vouch for the veracity of every point.
On me, I do not wish nor try to be famous, and this substack is completely free and I have noted many times I DO NOT ACCEPT ANY DONATIONS, thus I have no financial gain from engagement numbers. Other people, perhaps yourself? do monetize your ss and have donation buttons on the HP like Enigma's how bad is my batch site.
Now please stay polite, appreciated. Names like "Sherlock" is just about out of bounds. If you will try using the the "discredit strategy" of making a cess-pool out of this post I will delete your comments then ban you and you will not be able to reply to your detractors-which I honestly wish you have the right to, politely this time.
I gonna copy your comment here removing the nasties and delete your comment but will give you a few min to edit yourself if you want. Omar may be incorrect about some or many things but he is not foul mouthed.
I've only got time to do this a few times then I will just delete your comments, then ban you. Pls respect the politeness rule on this post and all future posts. It's not jut you, I will delete then ban any foul language on this post.
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Sasha Latypova Writes Due Diligence and Art 4 mins ago
That document is trash full of lies, innuendos, smears. cringe but funny. "Sherlock" is out of bounds, but writing total ---- about good people is not. I see. I enjoyed reading it and had a good laugh. That person has no clue about professional aspects of drug development, nor what my companies did (I sold all of them long before 2020 and has not had any relationship with them since). He does not understand what Jessica does, or what Mike Yeadon did professionally. And how would he? I would not know much about petroleum extraction or aircraft building, for example. Of course claims of us saying vaccines can be safe are total fabrication by this ---- individual who decided to use the Daily Beast as source material! That was just precious. We never said that. We were the first ones in the world who identified the fact that these were non cGMP compliant, unregulated, purposefully adulterated poisons.
PS. all this is old news anyway. None of us (except probably Craig) work on this analysis anymore. We got the answers we needed. There is no Team Enigma, the name was sort of symbolic anyway.
Do whatever you want, that's your page. Just to note - you agree this Omar guy maybe wrong and misunderstands stuff. And he smeared liberally some very good people who did some of the most valuable work out there and for no pay whatsoever. Seems like a great source document to be quoting when writing a smear piece about me. Has it occurred to you to ask questions from me about this instead of relying on Omar-who-may-be-mistaken? I would have answered by the way. Lol.
I'm not gonna say yes or no to Omar's paper on Enigma, his works in general provide good insights, many provable by looking at public info he references. Here I encourage anyone, including you, to debunk or support his work, politely.
I am supposed to be polite at insults and smears thrown at me? How funny all of you guys are. I already told this to your other friend - I am not nice, but I am fair. And no, I will not dignify Omar or your creative writing here with any "debunking", explanations or anything of this sort. Play detectives all you want, it seems like a fun activity. Sorry, friend, you will have to learn that if you want goodwill you have to actually show you have it.
This article is well worth revisiting every once in a while.
Thank Ray , yes, it certainly is!
I will re-stack
In the comment section, Latypova responded to my comments, making her stance even clearer than before. I refused to engage in a conversation, because her comments speak for themselves.
What is your approach five years after moving on from Neuropsychiatry?
The only truth she mentioned was that SS was created to sift out the "freedom
fighters"
Kaal (poster) came across this in reference to Dr. A ?
I sent the links a few places and they were removed in seconds.
https://eecs.engin.umich.edu/people/mihalcea-rada/
https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~mihalcea/research.html
Substack, from the very beginning, has been a honey pot, but in return, it also offered the opportunity to make friends. The globalists' greatest enemy is people keeping in touch:
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-most-important-thing-anyone-can
The links open here; there are two Mihalceas.
Thanks for the link Ray.
I enjoy your writing style.
I agree with the keeping in touch. After years I decided to join at least one platform.
Appreciate your feedback on there being two MIh
My gut says it goes deeper.
Maybe PM will chime in :)
I am subbing to your material as you offer a calming effect which is well needed today.
Will be back to address your question in reference to my 5 years.
Much respect!
The better Minalcea is also playing a role. Will publish about it tomorrow.
Yes, indeed without a doubt, Wise choice stopping any so-called conversation.
The "farm" just doesn't hire anyone to fill these roles:
Will the real Sasha Latypova please stand up?
https://ratical.org › PandemicParallaxView › Latypova-Resume_102022.pdf
https://pitchbook.com › profiles › company › 108409-15
And what do you think they have been placing in their eye care lenses and "products"
The hapless tenants’ troubled dreams
In the house that’s built on lies-
Are they as the landlords deem ?
(whose fevered minds contrived) …
;)
Very interested in this:
"2. Similar to David Martin, her C-V in Omar’s link lists more things than could be possible for most people unless they were more loosely attached to the projects than is suggested. I can tell you for sure that even talented Pharma persons will very rarely have these kinds of multiple opportunities unless they have some special backing/connections."
what in my CV indicates that? I only ever held 1 job at a time, and they are all listed there. maybe you never held a job and so that makes you think that this is an unachievable feat? Just curious.
Scientific 'knowledge' is like the banking system - full of toxic debts packaged as IF appreciable assets in complex instruments devised to obfuscate while packaged and sold in narrative persuasions for private manipulation seeking covert gain of believed fiction. So the need as i see is to seek logical consistency while also identifying the assumptions or assertions on which logics are based.
There is another innate approach to any offer or engagement that discerns gaslighting, neediness, manipulation, persuasion, as fundamentally false - even if using truths to mask a-tempt to gain covert boost of identity by the manipulation or use of the other. BUT if we are already engaged in such patterns we will not want to see, but instead seek our own boosting reinforcement within the framing narratives for self-specialness - or 'being right' over others wrong, or enlightened over others ignorance - including first to know and 'we told you so!'.
Narrative coercions result the struggle of minds in conflict to redistribute blame & penalty away from self - and by extension group - that holds the position & means to define & dictate terms of engagement - such as insider-elitism in banking, science, and ideological construct (I wont call it philosophy).
The root of conflict is in wanting or needing to believe true, what is not so, or of course wanting or needing to ignore or deny what is true as a means to escape or evade conflicts that hold inner patterns of self-division as masking relational conflict. The mind set in judgement from which all else proceeds in like kind.
I don't accept coronovirus, covid, pandemic, SARS Cov2, 'tests', 'vaccines', 'gene-therapy', spike protein' as valid definitions from which to respond.
I do accept that the mode of attack is the principle means of defence for a covert masking identity of conflict set for getting, instead of giving & receiving. So the body is used as both means of defence - as masking and distancing a 'special private judging mind' , and as a means for attack with, and upon both self and others, for the true function of body is Communication. Attempts to use communication as a means of attack is to 'attack our own functional joy of being' under a sense of lack-driven override or control.
So the signature of such a dissociating 'self-conscious' conflict is of hacking, hijacking and replicating itself as the determiner of meanings, taken out of context as a mis-taken inheritance, set on getting, by an unconscious underlying fear of lack, invalidity, untruth or lie set in place of a life we 'attack' by a mode of thinking that knows not what it does - for that is its raison d'etre - to defend against what we do not want to see, know or face and own.
The physical cannot really disconnect from its psyche or psychic context, but insofar as we see its patterning or structural order, we see charged domains of flux - an electromagnetic binding and transmuting transformation interactive exchange of molecular to galactic order that is 'in motion' as a balanced disequilibrium. Our current maps & definitions of reality reflect the nature of predictive control as an automata or asserted rule or dictate to which reality conforms.
But the logical outcome of attempts to control life (Reality) is to be controlled by our own judgement unwittingly. The fragmenting dissociations of conflict do not really 'control' but operate as an externalised systemic experience of subjection - no matter how intense the fantasies acted out on the body as 'freedom' to be what we are not.
Toxic thinking underlies our engagement in a toxic 'reality'. But release of the false is the gift of the truly shared - not the machinations of thought-control set as 'inclusion' by which to exclude the love of freedom to be all that we are, for an 'ideal' gaslit projection against which life is held unreal, unworthy, sick, weak, and shameful - to be stamped out or replaced by vengeance as a 'self-vindicating' 'death' set over life.
Rinse & repeat - or Reset "New Game!" ?
Living thought joins across space and time.
True resonance receives to give all to all. (Meaning)
Playing in the dissonance sets up a complex of 'meanings' by which we can be phished.
"Come into my framing" said the spider to the fly.
Thanks - for your offer - but, No thanks!
How deep is your love? (the love that you are?)
Its rather crazy how the difference in perception between people is so huge. majority seems happy with: if the turd is wrapped in glittering paper it has a pass regardless of the insane stink. While a small percentage couldnt be made to even consider this turd, just their intuition is enough for them to make the right decision...
Me being part of the second group, sometimes I feel like an alien ....
Now you really made me laugh, we're good friends again 😍
Offtopic: So you dont think that "shedding" could be just plain ole osmosis?
I ask here because I cant find my comment/question anymore...
Good question, I remember seeing that comment but can't find it now either. The exact mechanism of possible shedding seems undiscussed. To me its multiple, inhaling/exhaling, skin extrusion, exchange of fluids from close contact into the mouth? Osmosis is movement from higher to lower concentrations, hmm, maybe that and diffusion, Brownian Motion. To me the most common likely mechanism would be inhalation of droplets, but I really dont know. Sorry! Wrapped up in turd seems less likely but who knows?
But what would you think is being "shed"? A physical transfer of something that would create the symptoms I've read doesn't make sense. If that were the case, again, shouldn't most if not all of those unvaxxed exposed to the vaxxed being having problems? Nah, that rotten in Denmark thing again. There can be too many other causes.
well, I would say that inhaling droplets or any kind of physical contact just makes the "sharing" faster and stronger!
so IT IS osmosis.
btw. have you heard of Aajonus Vonderplanitz and his work?
Dear Rich, did you mean the, "did someone say it was open question day?"
You asked too many broad questions, some unrelated to this post, and some of personal nature that really do not relate to this News. And no one should expect me to reply to every comment-you may realize it is taking many hours to deal with them and I am doing this 100% volunteer. If you have one specific question you can put it in reply to this.
About the laugh. This was a note to SIRIUS in respect to the sense of humor. It is not necessary to criticize my note really. If you are too critical or make snide remarks then people wont engage with you. Ok, lets start from a clean slate if you will be polite and clear to me. Thanks.
It appears that neither you, Proton Magic, or this gentleman Omar have addressed the extraordinary work, findings, & analyses of Katherine Watt (“Bailiwick News” Substack). Out of all the presentations made by various “freedom fighters”, hers are the most solid. Unlike many other individuals, she is not tainted by ego, bias, or self-aggrandisement. I challenge you to assail her or her work if you can. I don’t believe you’ll be able to.
I understand the “no virus” camp but none of its advocates (at times, militants) have presented a solid, alternate theory as to what is causing virus like symptoms (eg. why measles causes a certain symptomology compared to that of Hepatitis, etc.) other than proffering the Terrain theory. If the “no virus” camp were to claim that all viruses are actually caused by bacteria & could prove their theory then there would be no more argument & the public would finally let go
of their fear of “viruses”. People will cling to an idea or theory, even though it’s wrong/inaccurate unless they are provided with a viable alternate explanation/theory - something has to fill the void; it’s not enough to claim that there are no viruses.
It’s not wrong to question someone’s stance on an issue, their statements, their background and history, and/or their actions. Those who we look to as leaders in this fight against the globalist-elites should not be put on a pedestal, they need to be called if necessary. Once, I admonished Christine Massey & Sasha Latypova because they engaged in a very puerile & unprofessional exchange on Substack. I also challenged Joseph Sansone & Karen Kingston regarding their paywalls. All of the these people have done good work and have brought the public closer to the Truth. I respect/admire them all. Yet, like the rest of us “normies”, they make mistakes and suffer errors in judgment.
I would disagree at this time with your and Omar’s assessment regarding Yeadon, Latypova, Team Enigma, & Mikovits. As regards Robert Malone, a former CIA employee who has never disavowed this agency, the likelihood that he’s controlled opposition is quite substantial. My gut impression of Malone after watching an interview of him in April/May of 2021 was that he was a liar and untrustworthy.
I came to realize that Steve Kirsch is most likely controlled opposition as well when he interviewed Sasha earlier this year. He referred to his friend Bill Gates as “Billy” and seemed hard-pressed to believe that Billy would want to harm people and depopulate the world via vaccines. This kind of naivety is not possible for someone like Kirsch. More recently, I’ve begun to question RFK, Jr. & Edward Dowd because of their continuing association with Malone. Del Bigtree has also sparked suspicion.
And as of this moment, I begin to question what your game is, Proton Magic. I responded earlier today to a posting you made about HCQ and IVM. I find it ironic that in this present article you criticize Sasha for not substantiating her claims yet I could equally accuse you of the same in regards to your statement that HCQ and IVM are harmful. Please don’t expect me to take your word for it. Show me & the public your evidence please. Sasha has in fact provided a good deal of documentation in her videos and articles regarding certain claims she has made So, where’s yours?
Dear Veronica, the majority of your comment is your opinion and I have no comment. I was going to get some references on HCQ and IVM but after I saw some aggressive remarks from you like,
"I begin to question what your game is, Proton Magic.?"
I think we are at the end of our rope. You could get all your same ideas across just written more politely. If you cannot be polite in my comment section you can bring it to your own SS.
You can censor, ban, or delete me if you feel you must but I don’t believe my comment was in any way aggressive or an ad hominem attack. I approached what you had to say about Sasha & her claims with an open mind. She is not perfect and shouldn’t be placed on a pedestal. However, I found your approach in dealing with her to be colored by some malice or ill will which made me question your motives. I speak honestly as an observer. Of course, you don’t have to agree with me. But if I felt compelled to admonish Sasha for her very unseeming exchanges with Christine Massey, then why not you?
Isn’t it interesting that so many conservatives and Christians who complained about being censored by the media, government, and liberals do the same to others when they feel challenged by a legitimate question? Oh, the hypocrisy!
As for the evidence you could possibly present regarding the dangers of HCQ and IVM, so many of the publications currently available have been undermined by biased clinical studies. And if you were going to rely on such to prove your point then you would have to also present Dr. Fauci’s own paper written years ago wherein he acknowledged the effectiveness of HCQ against coronaviruses.
Again, HCQ and IVM, have such a long history of success in treating various elements that it is really hard now to discredit these substances. People & the media have equally attempted to discredit CDS (or MMS) yet people have used this substance for years without any adverse effects. Whatever the physicians or scientists might say, the anecdotal or empirical evidence
regarding the benefits of HCQ, IVM, and CDS is even more substantial.
We’ve all heard the predictions from Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates about another imminent pandemic. The US government has already allocated monies for Marburg/Ebola/Hemorrhagic viruses. There are no known cures for any of these & their mortality rate is astronomically high, in the 80 - 90 percentiles. As HCQ, IVM, and Fenbendazole are all zinc ionophores, these drugs in combination with zinc and other supplements/nutraceuticals can prevent against infection from these deadly pathogens. In fact before 2019, Fenbendazole was being promoted as a prophylactic in military manuals for those serving in Africa who might encounter Marburg and Ebola.
So, if we have an outbreak of one of the lethal Hemorrhagic viruses (a painful death which induces bleeding from all the orifices of the body, including the eyes) will you continue to denounce the zinc ionophores of HCQ & IVM and opt to be “shot” by a DoD “vaccine” (weapon) which was developed in 100 days or less, was not tested, and lacks long-term safety data?
You can quibble with Sasha regarding certain particulars of her claims, but you cannot defeat her primary claim that the shots are “countermeasure” weapons deployed by the US military, the DoD, under a health emergency façade. Few have had the courage to come forward or do the research to confirm these facts outside of Katherine Watt, Sasha, and attorney Todd Callender. Denis Rancourt presented a compelling study months ago that linked the shots and excess deaths/all cause mortality rates (I believe data from various countries was considered). Clearly, the shots are killing masses of people. Prior to the outbreak of Covid-19, lipid nano particles (LPNs) were already deemed to be potential bio-weapons. Karen Kingston has backed up this fact.
So my query to you is, if you’re truly sincere in wanting to get to the truth about the Covid shots then why aren’t you also questioning Katherine Watt, attorney Todd Callender, & Karen Kingston (among others) who’ve also stated that the “vaccines” are chemical/biological and even radiological weapons? When you are exclusively focus on just ONE proponent of this claim then yes I do question what your “game” is & so should everyone else.
See the Deception Agents section in this post
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/proton-magic-tales-of-intrigue-and-ec6
There are 3 posts on KK, and posts of 5-6 others and groups. I request we end this thread here then, please respect my wishes.
It’s that Sasha refuses to entertain this science that is extremely frustrating for those who have been loyal followers from the beginning