I doubt the massacre was real, as it flies in the face of two things I know, one that humans are not cold-blooded killers, and two, that most large massacres and even small ones are staged. I've studied some of them in depth, not that I am the be-all end-all who cannot be fooled. I am not and I can, but my take, for instance, on Waco, Jonestown, Columbine, and Tiananmen, was fake, fake, fake and fake. Others have done the same work on other events, to the same conclusion. One hint on Mai Lai is 504, which is an embedded '33' (5+4=9= 3*3), a Masonic signal to insiders that an event is fake (for instance, JFK was "killed" on 11/22, first shot fired at 12:30, two '33's right in front of our nose. All other staged events have similar markers, various forms of 8,11 and 33 (9/11 anyone?). These freemasons are a superstitious lot).
Why would the US government stage such an event? Wars are never fought for stated reasons, so some other goal was going on in Vietnam. I quick look at the population of the country indicates there was no interruption in growth that a 3-million loss out of a population of 34 million would make - no blip, no dip. I can only speculate, but it appears that Vietnam was being rebuilt in the colonial image, with people herded from the countryside to the cities to work the factories, making it a garment center. Today it is much more than that, but still a colony of the West.
The war had to be "fought" to its natural conclusion, mission accomplished, but the population at home was not bought in as it had been in prior wars. So, events were staged to create divisions, those for, those against the war. Mai Lai was one such event. It would not matter which "side' we were on, only that we chose one or the other. Another fake narrative, Jane Fonda's trip to Hanoi, was also fake, again, to exacerbate the divisions and keep us fighting amongst ourselves. Imagine that Jane, anti-government protestor, after her activities, was still allowed to have a movie career!
So, yes, Mai Lai was fake, Ron Ridenhour an intricate player used to "go public." Had he been the real deal, his presence would never have been known in our controlled news media.
You may be right Mark, but the only real proofs are direct examination of corpses (like JFK that was Tippit), or living persons said to be dead (like the Challenger Crew, Sharon Tate, John Lennon, etc). I was hoping to find Vietnamese, even those not in Vietnam, talking like we do about fakery but couldn't find them in this search.
Also, some events may have both real dead and fake dead to confuse us. Fonda's trip does not mean there were no pockets of many dead and/or systemic genocide in SE Asia. It could just mean the Elite are distracting us and a fake "someone is trying to do something".
I did some serious work on the JFK corpse, finding that the morgue photos were, in my opinion, fake. First I went looking for a left profile shot of JFK, and found one of him giving a speech. I was then able to rotate it and size it by various means, and then overlay it on the official morgue photos. The result, an exact match of features, telling me that the body in the morgue was indeed JFK except ... the ears did not line up. They were in fact off by quite a bit in location and size. After serious navel gazing time staring at the photos, I could see the outline of JFK's face superimposed on some else's head. Man was it good work except that they did not bother with the ears.
JFK did not die that day, as I see it, and so too did Lee Oswald live out his full life. Officer Tippet, as best I can figure, is misdirection, as there was no need to use him in the morgue photos. The body they did use belonged to a younger, healthier man who could be anyone recruited, most likely a soldier due to the military being able to keep secrets under threat of imprisonment.
that has a JFK and Tippit part you can see if you scroll down, near the top then further down. See the top corpse has a nose and sideburn slant closer to Tippit not JFK. I do not deny the 60s era photoshopping but there could also be a few different corpses incl Tippit.
This post on JFK I also took a start from MM, but went off on some other things.
MM is strange, he is a polymath and smarter than Newton but has no $? He said almost nothing about Covid and even pushed virus existence. He is great on past and finished ops, but not Covid. He pushes the "Jews did it" psyop. He is CO in my opinion.
I very much base conclusions on a Burden of Proof approach. They told us there was a massacre and yet what they show us is in one photograph are bodies with no signs of blood on them or signs of injury (plus a strangely-positioned woman with her legs spread and her hands in her crotch) while in another photo they show us what looks like blood but no signs of injury. Strewn bodies with no signs of injury does not meet burden of proof for a massacre in my opinion. What is there to argue for real over fake in this situation?
Additionally, as I've pointed out in other comments I wasn't aware until this morning that the alleged massacre was of South Vietnamese not Viet Cong. So we're supposed to believe intelligence got it wrong and designated these people as Viet Cong sympathisers? Please - pull the other one. I questioned ChatGPT about Charlie Company being involved in intelligence work and part of its response was this:
"Before Mỹ Lai:
U.S. intelligence (brigade/division level) assessed Son My village complex as:
--- a VC stronghold
--- containing elements of the 48th Viet Cong Local Force Battalion
Charlie Company was briefed that:
--- civilians would be gone to market
--- anyone remaining would likely be VC or VC sympathizers
--- booby traps and snipers were expected
This intelligence — later shown to be deeply flawed — framed how soldiers interpreted everything they saw."
You bring up interesting points, but these are not direct examination of corpses which is really the only way to decide what happened. Of course we can't do that so that our arguments in these comments can't come to a full conclusion.
"... really the only way to decide what happened."
Not for me but if for you PM fair enough. Once the claimant has made claims that do not stand up to scrutiny and indicate lying my attitude is, "I don't believe a word of it without clear evidence ... or any good reason to believe it otherwise." As far as I'm concerned when we know that they stage stuff against themselves and we have no clear evidence of this massacre then I say, "no massacre" .... not at all saying there were no massacres just not what they've shown us.
Just to make the point it's not about belief in whether there was a massacre or not but belief in what is the correct methodology to determine the truth. If you think that investigation needs to be done to determine whether a claim made by known liars that has no clear evidence is required to know what happened I simply don't. If a known liar makes a claim to me without clear evidence - and what I have very good reason to believe involves fakery - my response is, "Without clear evidence, I don't believe you. End of."
I did not do the work on that one. But there is a movie called Let Him Be. The Premise of the move is that a man in Toronto, Mark Staycer, dressed up like Lennon to be part of the movie. It was a double switch, and the real Lennon was stepping in and out of the movie even as Staycer was doing his part. Staycer looks nothing at all like JL, and no amount of makeup can make it so. They did a concert scene at the end and the JL character was playing away. I did a screen grab and then did a facial comparison with Lennon. That was my only work on JL. The rest was done by Miles Mathis. I don't think he and I ever communicated about my work, as he does not like the facial work I do. I believe in it, trust it, but he does not. But his work on Lennon is a good read, at 54 pages now. MM is why I knew to watch the movie Let Him Be. Sadly, I gave that movie away, to an Aussie, but people tell me it is available online somewhere. It's tedious to watch, but the music is good. It is JL singing, that much I know in my bones, though I don't often rely on evidence like "my bones" - that sort of thing is not convincing, you know.
while plastic surg can do amazing things, and I think he is Lennon. But even without arguing if he looks like Lennon or not, there is no info about Staycer from 1955 to 2005. Though he worked at a radio station and was in a Beatles tribute band. No movies, no vids, no promos. No official docs for that time. No SS card, no driv license, nothing. Personally I have zillions of docs and photos of myself from those same years, they all clearly look like me with slow aging over time. Even my dad does from the 50s to today.
I was in touch with a close relative of Staycer and pushed for some of these docs but all I got were the BS photos from the obituary/tribute pages. Any one of just a few photos of Staycer from before 2005 DO NOT look like Staycer and I could not source any one of these from this person, who I promised I would not name publicly but you can look for yourself. So even if you want to think Staycer is not Lennon, you are stuck with WTF Staycer is hiding about his past.
I’ll do some work on it tomorrow. Or recover some work. I did facial comparisons of Staycer as Lennon with Lennon. Not even close. It was a long time ago. I don’t know that I kept it.
Thanks. These facial comparisons are interesting but here we are, or could be, looking at a plasticized face which is NOT the same as comparing corpses to the real JFK because we have the original JFK and assume Staycer's face photos are not photoshopped since he was a public figure. The JFK corpses were not public figures with organic photos since they became a corpse. In addition, comparison to Lennon would not solve the mystery of Staycer's 50 year lack if info, from birth in '55 to the only photo said to be him, his HS yearbook photo that doesn't even look like him, to 2005. The only sure fire way to see if Staycer is Lennon is to look at dental xrays though MM did some tooth comparisons that matched pretty well. Staycer's name as a kid was Stytzer they say, convenient.
Kind of also reminds me of the empty "mass graves" in the war in Serbia, after the US went there to use up some old ammo, including warheads with depleted uranium, giving a green signal to the European drug- and human-trafficking distribution center, Kosovo.
You seem to agree with PM that "So what would the psyop value be of a faked, or partially faked/exaggerated My Lai massacre? The news of the massacre inflamed the anti-war movement and may have helped set the stage as a reason for the U.S. to lose the war and pull-out because that wasn’t the plan to begin with. The truths served up by the pentagram pentagon will likely be hidden from us forever."
Of course, not, but Afghanistan at least cleared the path for the opium trade conducted by US operators. I read somewhere that Vietnam was also a "drug test" for soldiers.
Yes, Masonry uses symbols and numbers to constantly signal to their own their control and what they are doing. They are masters at it.
Nowhere is this more evident than in their most recent hit job, in the Charlie K. "operation." That was a fake job, from top to bottom. And, anyone who thinks it was real, well, should take another look with their eyes open. Let's just say that.
As far as all gov ops being fake, I would point to the USS Liberty (the other massacre). That was very much real (based on evidence provided so far) and U.S. sailors died (for no reason), as a result of that unprovoked attack. So, the gov interlaces real tragedy with fake ops to keep us off balance and questioning endlessly. It's part of their game.
Recently, I have started suspecting that pretty much all countries with a central bank are globalist testing grounds, and have been for over 100 years. If that is true, anything is possible, but my ancestors survived carpet bombings of US and British planes in WW2, so I tend to concur with PM that the 20th century (and it might be possible to go back as far as the "French Revolution" of 1789) is a history of massacres. I'm having a hard time buying into the Masonic conspiracy (although its influence on history has been obvious from time to time), and even a "Masonic handshake" seems redundant to me between cooperating partners, unless the goal is to mislead people by "showing what's supposed to be a secret"... I call that tactic the "open-message deception":
giving the play away by posing with a 'Masonic handshake', for the camera (audience). if it were a real cosying-up between masons, they wouldn't have performed it in public.
You'd be surprised. There are numerous instances (photographed), where Masonic members are either giving each other the 'handshake,' or displaying other Masonic symbols openly with their hands. The music and entertainment industrys are filled with them. Altiyan Childs does a great (yet long) documentary on who they are, what they do and what their mission is.
Scrimmages are had with fake boundary lines. Silence is bought & paid for. Lives are bought & sold, .. simple as the 33 code.... (sending folks to Jesus code) In this time of human experimentation where minds are molded, melded & Kontrolled, we'll probably never know the truths that they hide, but it's really cool that you are looking into the great unknown (dragging the dark into the light) for answers to questions that are intended to be forgotten. :)
It is difficult to establish the truth of the things We see on the cave wall (Our screens). As I am wont to do, I place probabilities of truth, not assign true/false labels. And I would say that it's at least 80% probability that was a real massacre. 20% faked...
Very interesting article. I had always believed that the Mai Lai story was true. Yet, with a large population of Vietnamese in the U.S. (especially in CA), you would think, 60 Minutes, or some other show would have found some survivors of that attack long ago and interviewed them. To my knowledge, that has never happened. And, I'm quite sure, there are some Vietnamese here in the states who are either relatives, or friends with the few who survived or died. Or, who have inside knowledge about what happened. Why haven't we ever heard from them?
It didn't occur to me until I watched a video after reading this article that those allegedly massacred were South Vietnamese not Viet Cong which to my mind - apart from the lack of clear evidence of injury we'd expect in a massacre and the "enshrining" of it - immediately raises questions. Sure, the alleged victims might have been thought to be Viet Cong sympathisers but the fact that the South Vietnamese were allies in the war is simply another element that undermines the reality of the alleged massacre.
Good point! From what I remember, they were South Vietnamese.
Another thing to consider is that, WHY would our own gov allow info that paints itself as a killer of innocent people, to be put out there. They don't need that. There's already enough without all that.
Also, I have heard of NO Vietnamese ever asking for or receiving money (from a court judgment) from the U.S. gov in compensation for said crimes. If so many were slaughtered, wouldn't there have been hundreds of lawsuits filed against the U.S.?
Very possible, but after fifty plus years, you would think that kind of info would have come out by now? Hard to imagine even a few dozen people being paid off and no one knowing about it.
"WHY would our own gov allow info that paints itself as a killer of innocent people, to be put out there."
The point I make over and over again. If they're going to push out something bad against themselves it will be fabricated and controlled for propagandistic purposes.
putting out fabricated information, perhaps particularly something bad against themselves serves various purposes, such as undermining alternative, non-government (bankers' backed) sources of information and to counteract a unified protest movement.
There is mounting evidence Operation Northwoods was indeed a blueprint for 911.
A side note, "Point 2 is plainly gobbledygook. The Commandant is a naval position in charge of training....." Commandant positions are Marine Corps. which is technically under the Dept of Navy, but not a Naval position. :)
Yes, a blueprint up to a point BUT suggestive of real death and injury where none was planned for 9/11 - so it was a "plant" for the anticipated disbelievers of the 9/11 story just as "some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor" was a plant suggesting real death and injury where, in fact, both Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were staged apart from physical destruction - in the case of Pearl Harbor I think the physical destruction was really a lot less than implied. Most of the allegedly bombed ships were back in working order pretty quickly and there were no aerial bombers - all fake - just like 9/11.
Side note: Thanks, Dave. I've corrected it to:
"The Commandant is a Marine Corps position in charge of training ..."
Is it correct now? I'm completely and utterly clueless about military stuff so it's a testimony to their Revelation of the Method that someone so clueless can work out the fakery so easily.
* My Lai Massacre. = MLM = Men Loving Men = Homosexual overtones = Freemasonry 101.
* “soldiers killed between 347 and 504” No proper death count. Which is it? 347 or 504? Or somwhere in between? 347 = 3 + 4 + 7 = 14 = 2 x 7
* 7 is a hoax code. Hoax = 21 = 3 x 7
* My Lai Massacre = 49 reduction in Gematria = 7 x 7.
* Which soldiers? There were rumors going around that the Vietcong were executing villagers who helped the Americans.
* Some of the pictures look staged.
* If there are real dead in the pics we don’t and can’t know the cause of death. Whether it was accidental or intentional. Natural deaths or unnatural.
* We don’t know if any of the alleged dead were executed or crossfire killed in a firefight.
* Communism was always fake, ergo there was never a battle between Communism vs Capitalism. The Cold War was faked and the Vietnam war was arranged to take farmland from the Vietnamese villagers, drive them to the cities and turn farmland into poppy fields. Just like in Afghanistan.
* The countries are corporations and centrally owned and controlled, ergo all wars are pre-arranged military maneuvers.
* Divide and conquer - War protests and war coverage are staged and managed by Army Psyops. The US military don’t need to stay anywhere, they just need to spend the money, justify the MIC, make America look like a bully and keep the separate county myth alive. Wars achieve this and keep populations scared and terrorized.
* Media is and always has been tightly controlled by the military so the likelihood that a story breaks that the military don’t want disseminated, is nil.
* The alleged perpetrator got off, no others were charged. Indicates fakery.
Summary: there’s too many indicators of fakery here to be ignored.
With regards to search results …. The internet has been almost wiped clean since “Covid”.
I’ve noticed on a daily basis there’s sites that won’t load depending upon which country I use as a VPN. I’ve been having trouble recently accessing Substack and many sites since I’ve been abroad.
Search results aren’t what they used to be a decade ago, and especially two decades ago. The amount of legitimate information available especially in terms of revisionist history or the questioning of media and govt. narratives, is shrinking on a daily basis.
Search results are dependent on which search engine used. There aren’t any decent results with any major search engine like google or bing.
It’s not likely that the Vietnamese would be aware that the war was staged and arranged between the “govts”.
Once we lift the veil on the separate country illusion it’s easier to see the obvious coordination of these “wars” and understand their agendas are numerous and include land theft, moving large populations, drug trafficking operations, resource monopolies, propping up the voting, military and legal delusions, plus the communism vs capitalism psyop and the divide and conquer operation, with America as the staged evildoers/villains.
I think one thing that people may forget is that the psychopaths running most wars (for wealth accumulation, of course!) LIKE watching and/or causing others' deaths.
Just look at "Covid," for instance.
But I'll never be convinced that these wars we've seen in the fairly recent past are FAKED. I DO think that the school shootings are either faked or a set up by using drugs on a stooge, that sort of thing. It's always gonna be TESTING some new thing on some hapless schmuck.
You bring up an important point. There is a difference between faked, partially faked (AI'd or photoshopped), having some parts hiding other parts, lied about, and ginned-up, but they are all a type of fakery. Dog fights are real but ginned-up and controlled.
I THINK I understand what you're saying, but SOME dog fights are just dog fights. :)
I think that because there ARE a bunch of things we've been lied to about, now (some) people seem to be saying that EVERYTHING is fake. I know this can't be the case. But I also think that the PURPOSE of some of this kind of conversations (no, not yours) is designed to confuse, obfuscate, and cover up the REAL atrocities that are indeed being delivered upon us, such as Gaza.
Yes, ok. But by "dog fight" I mean the kinds that are done for betting. Those are ginned-up but real and controlled fights. The control is the time limit the rounds they may have etc.
Well, sure. That is clear. Anybody can go to a dog fight and find out. But we can’t all go to the 9/11 event, nor to what happened to the Pentagon, nor to Viet Nam during the war there, nor to any of these POSSIBLE PSY-OPS. This is distraction, in my opinion, pure and simple. Get us fighting with each other. Get us all wound up about shit that doesn’t MATTER ANYMORE (not really, intensely, in the NOW, I mean). It’s just like we’re seeing here on your post, all kinds of things that really aren’t immediately important. Distraction… while they’re planning a big-ass move b/c they know that tidal wave is finally beginning to look a little cresty…
My posts may have fooled you, they are not really about the things I write about, they are about a message.
👉The message in this series of Malignant Normie Breakdown it the LOSS OF SELF AGENCY IN BELIEVING AND OBEYING.
☞This leads to both the enacting what you are told on others and/or your following some edict and/or narrative that will likely do some kind of harm to yourself, others, or society as a whole.
"Get us fighting with each other. Get us all wound up about shit that doesn’t MATTER ANYMORE (not really, intensely, in the NOW, I mean)."
Yes true, until they come out with another psy-op like covid. How many bought (immediately) into the lies of six feet distancing, wear masks, flatten the curve, etc.? It was all bullshit!
So, it matters because we have to be able to discern when we are being hit with total bullshit (covid), versus being hit with real destructive measures, like geoengnineering. What they DON'T talk about, are the things we should all be looking at.
Yes, I agree with you. But how is going over events that are past, particularly a favorite musician’s death, or a tragedy like 9/11, as to whether or not these are real? We would do well, in my view, to focus on the Now. Our planet is suffering, lots of people are suffering, the US is going down, and we’re going see something like the Great Depression if we don’t get it together— while we’re seeing the warmongering oligarchs getting richer and richer… It’s building to a point of eruption, if you ask me. And I want the PEOPLE to come out on top, and without decades of devastation and suffering because of a handful of filthy rich do-nothings hoarding trillions of dollars and telling us we’re “talking cows.”
What I’m trying to say is, we should prioritize and act to save people suffering when we can CHANGE the trajectory.
I honestly do not get it, I really don't. A friend of mine "accuses" me of treating Revelation of the Method as my bible. No I don't treat it as my bible, THEY do so if THEY do then any intelligent person will apply that lens no? Whenever a button-pushing event is broadcast around the world we need to apply the Revelation of the Method lens to see what they're really telling us underneath the propaganda.
If they show fakery and they don't show anything that convincingly says real then we simply have no reason to believe in real, we have no reason. For some events such as 9/11 we certainly can't insist that no one died or was injured because it was such a massive operation, however, what we can insist on is that there is no clear evidence of real injury or death ... unless someone can provide it. No one has so far although I myself tend to think at least some injury occurred if not deaths.
Shitloads of purported evidence maybe but certainly no convincing evidence ... unless of course you have some. If it were a demolition job then we really wouldn't expect real death and injury because in order for that to happen the orchestrators of the event would have had to get professional demolition companies to agree to leave people behind in buildings for their terror story which makes no sense on two counts:
--- they didn't need to kill and injure people for real in order for people to believe in it
--- too many people needed to be involved and those people - including demolition companies proud of their safety culture - wouldn't agree to it.
I think you’ve gone off the deep end with this stuff.
What WAS real about 9/11 was the demolition of buildings, which killed a WHOLE BUNCH of people right there— Those buildings weren’t EMPTY. And people JUMPED, and there are plenty of eyewitnesses and FILMS of these things; the airplane that crashed was fake, but those people who supposedly called their husbands or wives and told them they were gonna crash… THOSE people died. In a plane? Maybe not. But they died. Lots of lies and fuckery, BUT PEOPLE DIED. And I’m done, I won’t argue with you, you’ve apparently lost your ability to be rational about this. No offense intended, I promise.
I think you're a little behind Word Herder. A significant minority on Substack recognise the fakery of death and injury on 9/11 including Proton Magic and another commenter on this post, Mark Tokarski.
2. The people allegedly killed were South Vietnamese, thus allies unless proven to be Viet Cong sympathisers so easy to see how they could be persuaded to participate in the fraud.
3. The photographer was US army photographer, Ronald Haeberle, who we are told was "allowed" to release the photos because he had taken them with his own camera and released them after discharge. His photographs have been exhibited in university and public displays (e.g., University of San Diego exhibitions of the full color sequence from the massacre). His photos are held in museum collections (especially the War Remnants Museum and Sơn Mỹ Memorial Museum). He has received awards later in life for his work toward peace and reconciliation. This sounds all very pat - see more on this on my Note created from a comment on PM's last article - https://substack.com/@petraliverani/note/c-190363745
I insist that this alleged massacre committed by US soldiers is too enshrined. Also, it's simply not what a REAL massacre looks like. A real massacre would simply not be broadcast like this. The images of a real massacre would be utterly horrific and not be put on display - it wouldn't be allowed.
I have no doubt massacres were committed ... but they don't show us real massacres because they're too horrific and I'd imagine that massacres were of Viet Cong not of South Vietnamese.
In its response to one of my questions about how it seems odd that it was legal for Haeberle to release photos once out of uniform because then surely any soldier could ChatGPT tells me:
While the above may have been one agenda there may also have been the agenda to let soldiers know that massacring people is a war crime and will incur consequences ... although judging by the slap on the wrist received by Calley not so sure about that agenda.
I don't doubt atrocities such as the alleged My Lai massacre occur, I'm damn sure they do ... however, what I absolutely insist on is that we are not shown them, we are shown the Hollywood versions because - apart from other good reasons such as the desire to control the narrative - images of the real massacres wouldn't be allowed.
Hollywood versions indeed, as the Allied liberation ("liberation") of concentration camps at the end of the war was filmed by established filmmakers/directors like George Stevens, John Ford, Alfred Hitchcock, Samuel Fuller, who acted "...as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services..." - https://hyperallergic.com/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/
I doubt the massacre was real, as it flies in the face of two things I know, one that humans are not cold-blooded killers, and two, that most large massacres and even small ones are staged. I've studied some of them in depth, not that I am the be-all end-all who cannot be fooled. I am not and I can, but my take, for instance, on Waco, Jonestown, Columbine, and Tiananmen, was fake, fake, fake and fake. Others have done the same work on other events, to the same conclusion. One hint on Mai Lai is 504, which is an embedded '33' (5+4=9= 3*3), a Masonic signal to insiders that an event is fake (for instance, JFK was "killed" on 11/22, first shot fired at 12:30, two '33's right in front of our nose. All other staged events have similar markers, various forms of 8,11 and 33 (9/11 anyone?). These freemasons are a superstitious lot).
Why would the US government stage such an event? Wars are never fought for stated reasons, so some other goal was going on in Vietnam. I quick look at the population of the country indicates there was no interruption in growth that a 3-million loss out of a population of 34 million would make - no blip, no dip. I can only speculate, but it appears that Vietnam was being rebuilt in the colonial image, with people herded from the countryside to the cities to work the factories, making it a garment center. Today it is much more than that, but still a colony of the West.
The war had to be "fought" to its natural conclusion, mission accomplished, but the population at home was not bought in as it had been in prior wars. So, events were staged to create divisions, those for, those against the war. Mai Lai was one such event. It would not matter which "side' we were on, only that we chose one or the other. Another fake narrative, Jane Fonda's trip to Hanoi, was also fake, again, to exacerbate the divisions and keep us fighting amongst ourselves. Imagine that Jane, anti-government protestor, after her activities, was still allowed to have a movie career!
So, yes, Mai Lai was fake, Ron Ridenhour an intricate player used to "go public." Had he been the real deal, his presence would never have been known in our controlled news media.
You may be right Mark, but the only real proofs are direct examination of corpses (like JFK that was Tippit), or living persons said to be dead (like the Challenger Crew, Sharon Tate, John Lennon, etc). I was hoping to find Vietnamese, even those not in Vietnam, talking like we do about fakery but couldn't find them in this search.
Also, some events may have both real dead and fake dead to confuse us. Fonda's trip does not mean there were no pockets of many dead and/or systemic genocide in SE Asia. It could just mean the Elite are distracting us and a fake "someone is trying to do something".
I did some serious work on the JFK corpse, finding that the morgue photos were, in my opinion, fake. First I went looking for a left profile shot of JFK, and found one of him giving a speech. I was then able to rotate it and size it by various means, and then overlay it on the official morgue photos. The result, an exact match of features, telling me that the body in the morgue was indeed JFK except ... the ears did not line up. They were in fact off by quite a bit in location and size. After serious navel gazing time staring at the photos, I could see the outline of JFK's face superimposed on some else's head. Man was it good work except that they did not bother with the ears.
https://pieceofmindful.com/2016/11/10/proof-that-morgue-photos-of-john-f-kennedy-are-fake/
https://pieceofmindful.com/2025/03/29/jfk-morgue-photos-revisited/
JFK did not die that day, as I see it, and so too did Lee Oswald live out his full life. Officer Tippet, as best I can figure, is misdirection, as there was no need to use him in the morgue photos. The body they did use belonged to a younger, healthier man who could be anyone recruited, most likely a soldier due to the military being able to keep secrets under threat of imprisonment.
Thanks Mark. On JFK you did very interesting work. My post here
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-brain-bits-sequel
that has a JFK and Tippit part you can see if you scroll down, near the top then further down. See the top corpse has a nose and sideburn slant closer to Tippit not JFK. I do not deny the 60s era photoshopping but there could also be a few different corpses incl Tippit.
This post on JFK I also took a start from MM, but went off on some other things.
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/jackie-the-car-jumper
MM is strange, he is a polymath and smarter than Newton but has no $? He said almost nothing about Covid and even pushed virus existence. He is great on past and finished ops, but not Covid. He pushes the "Jews did it" psyop. He is CO in my opinion.
I very much base conclusions on a Burden of Proof approach. They told us there was a massacre and yet what they show us is in one photograph are bodies with no signs of blood on them or signs of injury (plus a strangely-positioned woman with her legs spread and her hands in her crotch) while in another photo they show us what looks like blood but no signs of injury. Strewn bodies with no signs of injury does not meet burden of proof for a massacre in my opinion. What is there to argue for real over fake in this situation?
Additionally, as I've pointed out in other comments I wasn't aware until this morning that the alleged massacre was of South Vietnamese not Viet Cong. So we're supposed to believe intelligence got it wrong and designated these people as Viet Cong sympathisers? Please - pull the other one. I questioned ChatGPT about Charlie Company being involved in intelligence work and part of its response was this:
"Before Mỹ Lai:
U.S. intelligence (brigade/division level) assessed Son My village complex as:
--- a VC stronghold
--- containing elements of the 48th Viet Cong Local Force Battalion
Charlie Company was briefed that:
--- civilians would be gone to market
--- anyone remaining would likely be VC or VC sympathizers
--- booby traps and snipers were expected
This intelligence — later shown to be deeply flawed — framed how soldiers interpreted everything they saw."
https://chatgpt.com/c/69570ee6-ca48-8320-b859-308950eefe1d
You bring up interesting points, but these are not direct examination of corpses which is really the only way to decide what happened. Of course we can't do that so that our arguments in these comments can't come to a full conclusion.
"... really the only way to decide what happened."
Not for me but if for you PM fair enough. Once the claimant has made claims that do not stand up to scrutiny and indicate lying my attitude is, "I don't believe a word of it without clear evidence ... or any good reason to believe it otherwise." As far as I'm concerned when we know that they stage stuff against themselves and we have no clear evidence of this massacre then I say, "no massacre" .... not at all saying there were no massacres just not what they've shown us.
Yes your belief is your rightful opinion.
Just to make the point it's not about belief in whether there was a massacre or not but belief in what is the correct methodology to determine the truth. If you think that investigation needs to be done to determine whether a claim made by known liars that has no clear evidence is required to know what happened I simply don't. If a known liar makes a claim to me without clear evidence - and what I have very good reason to believe involves fakery - my response is, "Without clear evidence, I don't believe you. End of."
What is your evidence that John Lennon is alive?
First I've heard of this!
I did not do the work on that one. But there is a movie called Let Him Be. The Premise of the move is that a man in Toronto, Mark Staycer, dressed up like Lennon to be part of the movie. It was a double switch, and the real Lennon was stepping in and out of the movie even as Staycer was doing his part. Staycer looks nothing at all like JL, and no amount of makeup can make it so. They did a concert scene at the end and the JL character was playing away. I did a screen grab and then did a facial comparison with Lennon. That was my only work on JL. The rest was done by Miles Mathis. I don't think he and I ever communicated about my work, as he does not like the facial work I do. I believe in it, trust it, but he does not. But his work on Lennon is a good read, at 54 pages now. MM is why I knew to watch the movie Let Him Be. Sadly, I gave that movie away, to an Aussie, but people tell me it is available online somewhere. It's tedious to watch, but the music is good. It is JL singing, that much I know in my bones, though I don't often rely on evidence like "my bones" - that sort of thing is not convincing, you know.
https://mileswmathis.com/lennon.pdf
See the part on Lennon here,
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/malignant-normie-breakdown-part-1
while plastic surg can do amazing things, and I think he is Lennon. But even without arguing if he looks like Lennon or not, there is no info about Staycer from 1955 to 2005. Though he worked at a radio station and was in a Beatles tribute band. No movies, no vids, no promos. No official docs for that time. No SS card, no driv license, nothing. Personally I have zillions of docs and photos of myself from those same years, they all clearly look like me with slow aging over time. Even my dad does from the 50s to today.
I was in touch with a close relative of Staycer and pushed for some of these docs but all I got were the BS photos from the obituary/tribute pages. Any one of just a few photos of Staycer from before 2005 DO NOT look like Staycer and I could not source any one of these from this person, who I promised I would not name publicly but you can look for yourself. So even if you want to think Staycer is not Lennon, you are stuck with WTF Staycer is hiding about his past.
I’ll do some work on it tomorrow. Or recover some work. I did facial comparisons of Staycer as Lennon with Lennon. Not even close. It was a long time ago. I don’t know that I kept it.
Thanks. These facial comparisons are interesting but here we are, or could be, looking at a plasticized face which is NOT the same as comparing corpses to the real JFK because we have the original JFK and assume Staycer's face photos are not photoshopped since he was a public figure. The JFK corpses were not public figures with organic photos since they became a corpse. In addition, comparison to Lennon would not solve the mystery of Staycer's 50 year lack if info, from birth in '55 to the only photo said to be him, his HS yearbook photo that doesn't even look like him, to 2005. The only sure fire way to see if Staycer is Lennon is to look at dental xrays though MM did some tooth comparisons that matched pretty well. Staycer's name as a kid was Stytzer they say, convenient.
Okay, sure. But John Lennon is DEAD. k, bye.
Kind of also reminds me of the empty "mass graves" in the war in Serbia, after the US went there to use up some old ammo, including warheads with depleted uranium, giving a green signal to the European drug- and human-trafficking distribution center, Kosovo.
You seem to agree with PM that "So what would the psyop value be of a faked, or partially faked/exaggerated My Lai massacre? The news of the massacre inflamed the anti-war movement and may have helped set the stage as a reason for the U.S. to lose the war and pull-out because that wasn’t the plan to begin with. The truths served up by the pentagram pentagon will likely be hidden from us forever."
Thanks Ray, I messed up my writing a bit and fixed it to read,
"...... because winning the war wasn’t the plan to begin with."
Of course, not, but Afghanistan at least cleared the path for the opium trade conducted by US operators. I read somewhere that Vietnam was also a "drug test" for soldiers.
Yes, Masonry uses symbols and numbers to constantly signal to their own their control and what they are doing. They are masters at it.
Nowhere is this more evident than in their most recent hit job, in the Charlie K. "operation." That was a fake job, from top to bottom. And, anyone who thinks it was real, well, should take another look with their eyes open. Let's just say that.
As far as all gov ops being fake, I would point to the USS Liberty (the other massacre). That was very much real (based on evidence provided so far) and U.S. sailors died (for no reason), as a result of that unprovoked attack. So, the gov interlaces real tragedy with fake ops to keep us off balance and questioning endlessly. It's part of their game.
Recently, I have started suspecting that pretty much all countries with a central bank are globalist testing grounds, and have been for over 100 years. If that is true, anything is possible, but my ancestors survived carpet bombings of US and British planes in WW2, so I tend to concur with PM that the 20th century (and it might be possible to go back as far as the "French Revolution" of 1789) is a history of massacres. I'm having a hard time buying into the Masonic conspiracy (although its influence on history has been obvious from time to time), and even a "Masonic handshake" seems redundant to me between cooperating partners, unless the goal is to mislead people by "showing what's supposed to be a secret"... I call that tactic the "open-message deception":
https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-open-message-deception
giving the play away by posing with a 'Masonic handshake', for the camera (audience). if it were a real cosying-up between masons, they wouldn't have performed it in public.
You'd be surprised. There are numerous instances (photographed), where Masonic members are either giving each other the 'handshake,' or displaying other Masonic symbols openly with their hands. The music and entertainment industrys are filled with them. Altiyan Childs does a great (yet long) documentary on who they are, what they do and what their mission is.
Exactly. That's what I also figured, but so many people fall for it that I had to write the article above.
Scrimmages are had with fake boundary lines. Silence is bought & paid for. Lives are bought & sold, .. simple as the 33 code.... (sending folks to Jesus code) In this time of human experimentation where minds are molded, melded & Kontrolled, we'll probably never know the truths that they hide, but it's really cool that you are looking into the great unknown (dragging the dark into the light) for answers to questions that are intended to be forgotten. :)
It is difficult to establish the truth of the things We see on the cave wall (Our screens). As I am wont to do, I place probabilities of truth, not assign true/false labels. And I would say that it's at least 80% probability that was a real massacre. 20% faked...
Thanks, little proton, for diving deeper.
Very interesting article. I had always believed that the Mai Lai story was true. Yet, with a large population of Vietnamese in the U.S. (especially in CA), you would think, 60 Minutes, or some other show would have found some survivors of that attack long ago and interviewed them. To my knowledge, that has never happened. And, I'm quite sure, there are some Vietnamese here in the states who are either relatives, or friends with the few who survived or died. Or, who have inside knowledge about what happened. Why haven't we ever heard from them?
It didn't occur to me until I watched a video after reading this article that those allegedly massacred were South Vietnamese not Viet Cong which to my mind - apart from the lack of clear evidence of injury we'd expect in a massacre and the "enshrining" of it - immediately raises questions. Sure, the alleged victims might have been thought to be Viet Cong sympathisers but the fact that the South Vietnamese were allies in the war is simply another element that undermines the reality of the alleged massacre.
Good point! From what I remember, they were South Vietnamese.
Another thing to consider is that, WHY would our own gov allow info that paints itself as a killer of innocent people, to be put out there. They don't need that. There's already enough without all that.
Also, I have heard of NO Vietnamese ever asking for or receiving money (from a court judgment) from the U.S. gov in compensation for said crimes. If so many were slaughtered, wouldn't there have been hundreds of lawsuits filed against the U.S.?
They may have gotten hush money.
Very possible, but after fifty plus years, you would think that kind of info would have come out by now? Hard to imagine even a few dozen people being paid off and no one knowing about it.
I don’t think the Vietnamese Communist Party has trouble controlling their citizens payoff or not.
I'm sure they don't. If there were any payout, wouldn't it come from the U.S., since the U.S. was responsible?
"WHY would our own gov allow info that paints itself as a killer of innocent people, to be put out there."
The point I make over and over again. If they're going to push out something bad against themselves it will be fabricated and controlled for propagandistic purposes.
Other examples:
Operation Northwoods - https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/operation-northwoods-false-flag-proposal
Collateral Murder - https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/chelsea-manning-agent-collateral
putting out fabricated information, perhaps particularly something bad against themselves serves various purposes, such as undermining alternative, non-government (bankers' backed) sources of information and to counteract a unified protest movement.
There is mounting evidence Operation Northwoods was indeed a blueprint for 911.
A side note, "Point 2 is plainly gobbledygook. The Commandant is a naval position in charge of training....." Commandant positions are Marine Corps. which is technically under the Dept of Navy, but not a Naval position. :)
Yes, a blueprint up to a point BUT suggestive of real death and injury where none was planned for 9/11 - so it was a "plant" for the anticipated disbelievers of the 9/11 story just as "some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor" was a plant suggesting real death and injury where, in fact, both Pearl Harbor and 9/11 were staged apart from physical destruction - in the case of Pearl Harbor I think the physical destruction was really a lot less than implied. Most of the allegedly bombed ships were back in working order pretty quickly and there were no aerial bombers - all fake - just like 9/11.
Side note: Thanks, Dave. I've corrected it to:
"The Commandant is a Marine Corps position in charge of training ..."
Is it correct now? I'm completely and utterly clueless about military stuff so it's a testimony to their Revelation of the Method that someone so clueless can work out the fakery so easily.
Yes, that's correct!😉 You're welcome!!
Some Indications it was a faked event:
* My Lai = My Lie. They are telling us it’s fake.
* My Lai Massacre. = MLM = Men Loving Men = Homosexual overtones = Freemasonry 101.
* “soldiers killed between 347 and 504” No proper death count. Which is it? 347 or 504? Or somwhere in between? 347 = 3 + 4 + 7 = 14 = 2 x 7
* 7 is a hoax code. Hoax = 21 = 3 x 7
* My Lai Massacre = 49 reduction in Gematria = 7 x 7.
* Which soldiers? There were rumors going around that the Vietcong were executing villagers who helped the Americans.
* Some of the pictures look staged.
* If there are real dead in the pics we don’t and can’t know the cause of death. Whether it was accidental or intentional. Natural deaths or unnatural.
* We don’t know if any of the alleged dead were executed or crossfire killed in a firefight.
* Communism was always fake, ergo there was never a battle between Communism vs Capitalism. The Cold War was faked and the Vietnam war was arranged to take farmland from the Vietnamese villagers, drive them to the cities and turn farmland into poppy fields. Just like in Afghanistan.
* The countries are corporations and centrally owned and controlled, ergo all wars are pre-arranged military maneuvers.
* Divide and conquer - War protests and war coverage are staged and managed by Army Psyops. The US military don’t need to stay anywhere, they just need to spend the money, justify the MIC, make America look like a bully and keep the separate county myth alive. Wars achieve this and keep populations scared and terrorized.
* Media is and always has been tightly controlled by the military so the likelihood that a story breaks that the military don’t want disseminated, is nil.
* The alleged perpetrator got off, no others were charged. Indicates fakery.
Summary: there’s too many indicators of fakery here to be ignored.
With regards to search results …. The internet has been almost wiped clean since “Covid”.
I’ve noticed on a daily basis there’s sites that won’t load depending upon which country I use as a VPN. I’ve been having trouble recently accessing Substack and many sites since I’ve been abroad.
Search results aren’t what they used to be a decade ago, and especially two decades ago. The amount of legitimate information available especially in terms of revisionist history or the questioning of media and govt. narratives, is shrinking on a daily basis.
Search results are dependent on which search engine used. There aren’t any decent results with any major search engine like google or bing.
It’s not likely that the Vietnamese would be aware that the war was staged and arranged between the “govts”.
Once we lift the veil on the separate country illusion it’s easier to see the obvious coordination of these “wars” and understand their agendas are numerous and include land theft, moving large populations, drug trafficking operations, resource monopolies, propping up the voting, military and legal delusions, plus the communism vs capitalism psyop and the divide and conquer operation, with America as the staged evildoers/villains.
Thanks for the excellent comment! Just fyi, I’m in Japan, no trouble accessing SS…yet
You lucky thing!!! This is the first day I’ve been able to access SS in more than a month.
Well... I read all the other comments, and...
I think one thing that people may forget is that the psychopaths running most wars (for wealth accumulation, of course!) LIKE watching and/or causing others' deaths.
Just look at "Covid," for instance.
But I'll never be convinced that these wars we've seen in the fairly recent past are FAKED. I DO think that the school shootings are either faked or a set up by using drugs on a stooge, that sort of thing. It's always gonna be TESTING some new thing on some hapless schmuck.
Anyway, interesting post.
You bring up an important point. There is a difference between faked, partially faked (AI'd or photoshopped), having some parts hiding other parts, lied about, and ginned-up, but they are all a type of fakery. Dog fights are real but ginned-up and controlled.
I THINK I understand what you're saying, but SOME dog fights are just dog fights. :)
I think that because there ARE a bunch of things we've been lied to about, now (some) people seem to be saying that EVERYTHING is fake. I know this can't be the case. But I also think that the PURPOSE of some of this kind of conversations (no, not yours) is designed to confuse, obfuscate, and cover up the REAL atrocities that are indeed being delivered upon us, such as Gaza.
Yes, ok. But by "dog fight" I mean the kinds that are done for betting. Those are ginned-up but real and controlled fights. The control is the time limit the rounds they may have etc.
Well, sure. That is clear. Anybody can go to a dog fight and find out. But we can’t all go to the 9/11 event, nor to what happened to the Pentagon, nor to Viet Nam during the war there, nor to any of these POSSIBLE PSY-OPS. This is distraction, in my opinion, pure and simple. Get us fighting with each other. Get us all wound up about shit that doesn’t MATTER ANYMORE (not really, intensely, in the NOW, I mean). It’s just like we’re seeing here on your post, all kinds of things that really aren’t immediately important. Distraction… while they’re planning a big-ass move b/c they know that tidal wave is finally beginning to look a little cresty…
My posts may have fooled you, they are not really about the things I write about, they are about a message.
👉The message in this series of Malignant Normie Breakdown it the LOSS OF SELF AGENCY IN BELIEVING AND OBEYING.
☞This leads to both the enacting what you are told on others and/or your following some edict and/or narrative that will likely do some kind of harm to yourself, others, or society as a whole.
"Get us fighting with each other. Get us all wound up about shit that doesn’t MATTER ANYMORE (not really, intensely, in the NOW, I mean)."
Yes true, until they come out with another psy-op like covid. How many bought (immediately) into the lies of six feet distancing, wear masks, flatten the curve, etc.? It was all bullshit!
So, it matters because we have to be able to discern when we are being hit with total bullshit (covid), versus being hit with real destructive measures, like geoengnineering. What they DON'T talk about, are the things we should all be looking at.
Yes, I agree with you. But how is going over events that are past, particularly a favorite musician’s death, or a tragedy like 9/11, as to whether or not these are real? We would do well, in my view, to focus on the Now. Our planet is suffering, lots of people are suffering, the US is going down, and we’re going see something like the Great Depression if we don’t get it together— while we’re seeing the warmongering oligarchs getting richer and richer… It’s building to a point of eruption, if you ask me. And I want the PEOPLE to come out on top, and without decades of devastation and suffering because of a handful of filthy rich do-nothings hoarding trillions of dollars and telling us we’re “talking cows.”
What I’m trying to say is, we should prioritize and act to save people suffering when we can CHANGE the trajectory.
I honestly do not get it, I really don't. A friend of mine "accuses" me of treating Revelation of the Method as my bible. No I don't treat it as my bible, THEY do so if THEY do then any intelligent person will apply that lens no? Whenever a button-pushing event is broadcast around the world we need to apply the Revelation of the Method lens to see what they're really telling us underneath the propaganda.
If they show fakery and they don't show anything that convincingly says real then we simply have no reason to believe in real, we have no reason. For some events such as 9/11 we certainly can't insist that no one died or was injured because it was such a massive operation, however, what we can insist on is that there is no clear evidence of real injury or death ... unless someone can provide it. No one has so far although I myself tend to think at least some injury occurred if not deaths.
WHAT?
There are SHITLOADS of evidence of death and injury from the 9/11 (inside) attack.
I don't know what you're talking about!
I should have clarified: There are MANY things that are faked and lied about, but WARS are kinda hard to fake.
Shitloads of purported evidence maybe but certainly no convincing evidence ... unless of course you have some. If it were a demolition job then we really wouldn't expect real death and injury because in order for that to happen the orchestrators of the event would have had to get professional demolition companies to agree to leave people behind in buildings for their terror story which makes no sense on two counts:
--- they didn't need to kill and injure people for real in order for people to believe in it
--- too many people needed to be involved and those people - including demolition companies proud of their safety culture - wouldn't agree to it.
https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/the-first-thing-id-have-looked-at
I think you’ve gone off the deep end with this stuff.
What WAS real about 9/11 was the demolition of buildings, which killed a WHOLE BUNCH of people right there— Those buildings weren’t EMPTY. And people JUMPED, and there are plenty of eyewitnesses and FILMS of these things; the airplane that crashed was fake, but those people who supposedly called their husbands or wives and told them they were gonna crash… THOSE people died. In a plane? Maybe not. But they died. Lots of lies and fuckery, BUT PEOPLE DIED. And I’m done, I won’t argue with you, you’ve apparently lost your ability to be rational about this. No offense intended, I promise.
I think you're a little behind Word Herder. A significant minority on Substack recognise the fakery of death and injury on 9/11 including Proton Magic and another commenter on this post, Mark Tokarski.
Fakery of the jumpers analysis by Simon Shack:
https://septemberclues.org/jumpers.shtml
9/11 was essentially movie with heaps of pre-recorded stuff shown on the day ... so whatever they can show you in a movie ... they showed you on 9/11.
Please look at my post before responding or otherwise point me to evidence of death and injury that shows clear signs of being authentic.
https://petraliverani.substack.com/p/the-first-thing-id-have-looked-at
Whatever. If I were you, I’d be more worried about my bank account getting shut off. (And of course, if it’s on SUBSTACK, it must be TRUE!)
Interesting...
So many lies, it's hard NOT to question everything!
But tell me, what is a Masonic handshake--how is the one in the photo such?
If I were that photographer, I'd be afraid to go there! 🫥
Look up Masonic handshake images
These people, they’re like evil little children, only taller. 🙄😑
These are my arguments against reality:
1. Show and tell issue - no clear signs of massacre
Bodies in the ditch - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/media/gallery_images/My-lai-gallery-20-0902_GET.jpg
--- No clear signs of blood or injury
--- Strange posture of women with legs spread and hands in crotch - as labelled by someone on Clues Forum - atrocity porn
Child and man - blood but no clear signs of injury - https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/media/gallery_images/My-lai-gallery-7-0903_GET.jpg
2. The people allegedly killed were South Vietnamese, thus allies unless proven to be Viet Cong sympathisers so easy to see how they could be persuaded to participate in the fraud.
3. The photographer was US army photographer, Ronald Haeberle, who we are told was "allowed" to release the photos because he had taken them with his own camera and released them after discharge. His photographs have been exhibited in university and public displays (e.g., University of San Diego exhibitions of the full color sequence from the massacre). His photos are held in museum collections (especially the War Remnants Museum and Sơn Mỹ Memorial Museum). He has received awards later in life for his work toward peace and reconciliation. This sounds all very pat - see more on this on my Note created from a comment on PM's last article - https://substack.com/@petraliverani/note/c-190363745
I insist that this alleged massacre committed by US soldiers is too enshrined. Also, it's simply not what a REAL massacre looks like. A real massacre would simply not be broadcast like this. The images of a real massacre would be utterly horrific and not be put on display - it wouldn't be allowed.
I have no doubt massacres were committed ... but they don't show us real massacres because they're too horrific and I'd imagine that massacres were of Viet Cong not of South Vietnamese.
In its response to one of my questions about how it seems odd that it was legal for Haeberle to release photos once out of uniform because then surely any soldier could ChatGPT tells me:
"That is exactly why the military:
--- Tightened camera rules after Vietnam
--- Centralized media embedding
--- Criminalized unauthorized digital copying
--- Aggressively enforces classification today
My Lai changed the rules."
https://chatgpt.com/share/694b3204-1080-800a-9e66-e2e8c78c3477
While the above may have been one agenda there may also have been the agenda to let soldiers know that massacring people is a war crime and will incur consequences ... although judging by the slap on the wrist received by Calley not so sure about that agenda.
Thanks SG, this is one of the best comments I have read in a long time.
I don't doubt atrocities such as the alleged My Lai massacre occur, I'm damn sure they do ... however, what I absolutely insist on is that we are not shown them, we are shown the Hollywood versions because - apart from other good reasons such as the desire to control the narrative - images of the real massacres wouldn't be allowed.
Hollywood versions indeed, as the Allied liberation ("liberation") of concentration camps at the end of the war was filmed by established filmmakers/directors like George Stevens, John Ford, Alfred Hitchcock, Samuel Fuller, who acted "...as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services..." - https://hyperallergic.com/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/